I don't know about Axil, but I am talking about things I know and try to
understand. Why should I stop? I am not doing anything wrong.
2014-05-21 2:50 GMT-03:00 Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com:
Lately, you and Axil have gone off the edge.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
The issue isn't whether Gamberale was defrauded. It is whether or not
Defkalion engaged in fraud.
And that issue is probably moot anyways, because the only real thing
someone could hope for is some cash in their pocket from a civil lawsuit.
That isn't gonna happen because Defkalion is broke.
People like you who go over the edge can't see what they're doing wrong.
When you come back from the edge, if you don't apologize to those whom
you've besmirched, like Jed, then you won't be trusted for anything other
than taking out the garbage.
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Daniel Rocha
In the quest for a more perfect truth, please identify who DGT has
defrauded and of what?
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
The issue isn't whether Gamberale was defrauded. It is whether or not
Defkalion engaged in fraud.
And that issue is probably
To help me in avoiding the edge, please identify the edge and explain how I
am going over it.
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:08 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
People like you who go over the edge can't see what they're doing wrong.
When you come back from the edge, if you don't
If Luca is telling the truth, in breaking the NDA, after a 9month delay
calling for explanations, and finally whitleblowing, any honest company
would not be afraid to work with him, and would be proud to show his name
to clients :
- we have an honest whitleblower in out team. this man had
Why should I? I've simply noticed that you and Daniel Rocha have gone over
the edge in the last few days. If you were in a real quest for a more
perfect truth, you'd be re-examining the messages you've posted at Jed over
the last few days.
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Axil Axil
I don't have any confidence that you'll listen to me. So I'm on the record
as to where you went off the edge. Someone else on the list had the
responsibility of being your fence, of warning you that you were close to
the edge. I was too busy. Maybe the next time you play close to the edge
I have respected Jed to the highest degree in these recent discussions, and
I have tried to understand how DGT can be a criminal organization as a cold
fusion developer as Jed is asserting. I can not understand how a cold
fusion developer can be criminal. I also have assured my opinion that
I have respected Jed to the highest degree in these recent discussions,
***No, you have not. And besides that, all this other crap you've been
posting about DGT is just plain wrong. Who has the time to argue against
someone with an axe to grind? I don't.
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Axil
This affair is hurting because some people, whatever is the result, have
been fooled, or are fooling others, and I know some of them.
That is (bad) business risk, and that is why there is justice, laws, and
judges.
Cold fusion is so speculative that it is very much like a religion than a
Cold fusion is so speculative that it is very much like a religion than a
business. We support it in the hopes of a better world and understand very
well that little or nothing will ever be forthcoming from our contributions.
***Yet more evidence that you've gone off the deep end.
On Wed, May
Jed is a respected member of our community, has great merits
in the survival of classic Cold Fusion and has the right to have to
have his opinion about everything, including that DGT has nothing.
In this stage, pre-commercial this is more useful that supporting
DGT/ The company had and has more
Hi Peter,
Will see :-)
Michel VandenbergheLENR-Cities CEO
Mobile +33 689 300 935
http://www.lenr-cities.com
Le Mercredi 21 mai 2014 9h47, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com a écrit :
Jed is a respected member of our community, has great merits
in the survival of classic Cold Fusion and
Dear Axil,
first what is shown is not benign, but this does not say DGT is criminal
from its inception.
Desperate people do stupid things; Paranoid people do stupid things.
The second is however that if it was a mistake, or even a temporary failure
during a demo, and even if the demo was indeed
Somebody wanted to know if there was a precedent for the authorities taking
legal action in a cold fusion case. Well let's not neglect to consider crazy
John Rohner and his Intelligentry corporation. Admittedly not cold fusion but
definitely related. The Plasmic Transition Process descendent of
Papp was grated a patent for the Papp engine and was in fact awarded patent
of the year honors for his design and demonstration.
IMHO, this patent puts the Papp engine in another category from cold fusion.
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Steve High diamondweb...@gmail.com wrote:
Somebody
Could the reason that the Rossi effect is not understood relate to an
inadvertent catalyst?
By inadvertent catalyst, the implication is that a hidden element is found
in nickel, going back to the natural ore - at a low percentage which would
not be mentioned. This addition is often called a
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
At this juncture, cold fusion is not a subject where the words criminal
statute, fraud, NDA, jail, and illegal actions apply.
Of course it is! If Defkalion knows their machine does not work, but they
are trying to sell it for millions of dollars, that is
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:
The subject matter is meaningless. The subject could be pink unicorn fairy
dust.
What matters if money changed hands over misrepresentation.
Exactly right.
- Jed
Well we could perform sort of a thought experiment and imagine that Defkalion
had been issuing stock under the auspices of the SEC. My hunch is that at this
point they would be at or over the undefined line that John Rohner crossed when
he got busted. I think that what happened with Rohner was
Isn't SEC something from US? DGT doesn't have business in US as far as I
know.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
I do recall aluminum chloride/bromide batteries that used carbon electrodes in
the patents. Actually, I'm not sure what wasn't practical about such moderately
molten battteries.
In procurement of systems, it is the buyer's responsibility to do due
diligence:
*Due diligence* is a term used for a number of concepts, involving either
an investigation of a business or person prior to signing a contract, or an
act with a certain standard of care.
It can be a legal
IIRC, a while back somebody proposed that the reason Defkalion wanted to go on
the Canadian stock market was that there was less supervision in Canada
regarding potentially fraudulent stock market offerings than under the American
SEC. There was that seemingly bright moment about a year ago
Perhaps the oil lobby was not so intense there and they had only to deal
with nuclear authorities?
2014-05-21 11:53 GMT-03:00 Steve High diamondweb...@gmail.com:
IIRC, a while back somebody proposed that the reason Defkalion wanted to
go on the Canadian stock market was that there was less
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
The second is however that if it was a mistake, or even a temporary
failure during a demo, and even if the demo was indeed tweaked as Luca
describe, Defkalion had 9 month, in private or in public, to reassure Luca
himself, and why not us.
I agree.
In consideration of the recent posting regarding converting light into
mass, the upper limit of energy density is set by the speed of light
at 2.5 x 10^13 Wh/kg. Although the scientists have not actually
converted photons to electrons and positrons, a controlled reverse
process can be conceived
I thanks Shell to have funded CNAM for a test in France.
for Amoco to have let a skunkwork team test in their garage
for ENI/SAIPEM to have sent staff to E-cat conferences, to ILENRS12...
You know, Areva will do off-shore wind turbine.
modern corps don't oppose revolution, they capture it.
I am
And not just LENR. I am currently looking at how this may occur in the
copper that is associated with DNA/DNA/RNA triple helixes
Nigel
On 20/05/2014 16:28, Jones Beene wrote:
With all the recent talk about the overlooked magnetic component of LENR -
and spin coupling - at least for Ni-H and
Why are you sure it was not to sabotage or just see the degree of threat?
2014-05-21 13:29 GMT-03:00 Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com:
I thanks Shell to have funded CNAM for a test in France.
for Amoco to have let a skunkwork team test in their garage
for ENI/SAIPEM to have sent staff to
-Original Message-
From: Nigel Dyer
And not just LENR. I am currently looking at how this may occur in the
copper that is associated with DNA/DNA/RNA triple helixes
Cyril Smith says: If we wish to use Larmor precessions as charge pumps,
but without external microwaves maintaining the
50 million in US with autoimmune diseases and growing. We are cooked (by
microwaves)
On Wednesday, May 21, 2014, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Nigel Dyer
And not just LENR. I am currently looking at how this may occur in the
copper that is
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
In consideration of the recent posting regarding converting light into
mass, the upper limit of energy density is set by the speed of light at 2.5
x 10^13 Wh/kg… Such process would not necessarily involve any nucleus.
Yes - Exactamundo… this is
recent data on kids, shows that the consumption of antibiotic while young
kid is doubling asthman and alergy...
more generally the hygiena hypothesis seems validated since long and denied
by mainstream because of inconvenient conclusion that don't please the
whistleblowers that have their
It is irrelevant:
1. if DGT has the Canadian stock market to deal with or the Greek ditto.
2. if they have an idea (theory or experiment) that at some time will work.
3. if they will sue someone or be sued.
.
.
.100 if xx
They have been criticized for a year and they have not provided any
In reply to Jack Cole's message of Tue, 20 May 2014 21:13:21 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
http://phys.org/news/2014-05-scientists-year-quest.html
I think the simplest way to turn light into matter happens every time an atom
absorbs a photon. ;)
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
Jones, good posit regarding Hg, I hope someone tries it.I recently blind
copied you an email with citations for both Naudt's paper on relativistic
hydrogen and a Russian paper on relativistic effects inside Casimir geometry
but don't have access to it presently. I think this means that the
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
By inadvertent catalyst, the implication is that a hidden element is
found
in nickel, going back to the natural ore - at a low percentage which would
not be mentioned. This addition is often called a dopant when it is added
knowingly. The person who
If you thought I couldn't go any further out on a limb how about UFO
accelerations and sudden changes in vector being related to a macro form of
this same posit of inhibiting virtual particles at the nano scale via casimir
geometry. A macro world version of vacuum suppression would fit well
Once again.
Remarkable lack of negotiation protocol to - not keep things even.
A conditional release should be a minimum after my agreement, which you
will have tomorrow.
Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros
www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com
lenn...@thornros.com
+1 916 436 1899
6140 Horseshoe Bar Road
Hat tip to e-catworld. They've been doing some very strong investigative
reporting on eCat lately.
http://freeenergyscams.com/andrea-rossi-e-cat-hydro-fusion-cashing-in-before-the-collapse/
I have no idea what to make of this, TBH.
I agree though, why didn't Mats wait for the report?
Maybe he
I have been looking at copper because it has an interesting relationship
with the DNA triple helix.There is no evidence that iron has such an
intimate relationship. The Copper 2+ ion is magnetic, and is
borderline between being ferro and ferri magnetic, and I suspect that
biology has
Oh, no, again!
2014-05-21 20:04 GMT-03:00 Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com:
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What was particularly fascinating (as e-catworld also points out, but I did
read this earlier) was the timely shout out by Rossi:
Andrea Rossi
May 18th, 2014 at 11:20
PMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=848cpage=1#comment-957368
Orsobubu:
Thank you for your comment, that indroduces us
Daniel, maybe you could cut down on the obliqueness. It'd make your
postings more intersting.
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, no, again!
2014-05-21 20:04 GMT-03:00 Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com:
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I don't understand what kind of message he would be sending... :S
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
I don't understand what you mean.
2014-05-21 20:12 GMT-03:00 Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com:
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Sorry Len, I will endeavor to insert several sentences to act as acceleration
dampers in future releases. Take 2 aspirin and you already called me yesterday
– you are feeling fine tomorrow. Sorry but I am losing phase lock with your
present temporal coordin…..t…….s…
From: Lennart Thornros
Greetings Vortex-l
As the bottom of the Hydrofusion -Cashing In ..I saw Gary Wright!
http://revolution-green.com/who-is-gary-wright/
I guess that this is nothing new.
Ron Kita
So here's the structure:
5M outstanding, pre-money valuation of 5M
1M share offering.That will be 6M outstanding shares, so 1M will give
you a ~16.6% equity stake.
Here's my baseline assumptions/guesses
No employees
No revenue
They have a distribution agreement with Rossi, but not IH.
Rossi
Decreasing the probability to 31% based on smelly stock offering.
http://freeenergyscams.com/andrea-rossi-e-cat-hydro-fusion-cashing-in-before-the-collapse/
HydroFusion is ran by Dr. Magnus Holm. Seems credible - but why didn't he
wait until after the report to ask for more money? Why is Rossi
I am decreasing the probability of Blaze pulling his head out of his ass
down to 11%. He logs onto his own thread without reading it and responding
to posts directly for him. He generates his own probabilities often on
things that have nothing to do with Rossi, and doesn't define what being
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:35 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
In procurement of systems, it is the buyer's responsibility to do due
diligence:
This argument seems to be a different one than one in which DGT is held to
be basically sound but misunderstood. In this line of reasoning, it
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
In consideration of the recent posting regarding converting light into
mass, the upper limit of energy density is set by the speed of light
at 2.5 x 10^13 Wh/kg. Although the scientists have not actually
converted
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
For instance, relativistic electron pumping via
Dirac mechanics would not be nuclear.
Is this a Dirac sea mechanism?
Aside from a nuclear source, we have as possibilities f/H shrinkage,
something coming out of the Dirac
Here is the message Rossi is sending:
He is about to get swamped by media inquiries, interviews, accolades, and
hints on stock tips. He is repaying some of the help he has received from
others in the past. Hydrofusion is one of his friends to whom he is
indebted. When the report comes out, and
The handful of partners who will initially invest in the DGT technology
will be entering into a joint venture where the partners will be evaluating
much more than the technology.
These partners will be looking at DGT as an organization that will be
capable of providing continuing improvements to
The same level of horse manure is what the investors behind Glenn Curtiss
said. He didn't need to invent the airplane. He didn't need to know squat
about it. He just needed to improve on what was presented. And he stole
the rest. History shows him to be the con man, and the Wright brothers to
And Rossi stole Piantelli's secrets...
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.comwrote:
The same level of horse manure is what the investors behind Glenn Curtiss
said. He didn't need to invent the airplane. He didn't need to know squat
about it. He just needed to
When did Rossi brag about such a thing? Defkalion BRAGGED.
I doubt Rossi stole such secrets. And arguing with you is a fool's
errand. Jed is right. You are wrong.
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
And Rossi stole Piantelli's secrets...
On Thu, May 22,
This is a very ambitious theory.
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
Here is the message Rossi is sending:
He is about to get swamped by media inquiries, interviews, accolades, and
hints on stock tips. He is repaying some of the help he has received
Kevin, if you want to invest .. why not HydroFusion? Looks to be the best
option.
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
I am decreasing the probability of Blaze pulling his head out of his ass
down to 11%. He logs onto his own thread without reading it
It is less ambitious than your supposed 35% probability that Rossi is
real. If you had been reading your own thread, you'd know why.
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Blaze Spinnaker
blazespinna...@gmail.comwrote:
This is a very ambitious theory.
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Kevin
Because I invested already. No thanks to you and your idiotic responses on
this thread.
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Blaze Spinnaker
blazespinna...@gmail.comwrote:
Kevin, if you want to invest .. why not HydroFusion? Looks to be the best
option.
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:42 PM,
Revising my estimate that Blaze will pull it out down to 10%. Based upon
his previous posts, his response on this thread when directly challenged,
his responses on other threads which he brings over here as if it meant
something, and his initial 10:1 odds that he reneged on.
On Wed, May 21,
Yes, let the anger flow through you, my apprentice. It will make you
powerful.
Anyways, no need to get stressed - whatever happens, I guarantee it will be
exciting.
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.comwrote:
Revising my estimate that Blaze will pull it out
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