Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread Axil Axil
In my view at the very root of the LENR reaction, extreme magnetic disturbance of the vacuum cause mesons to condense out of the vacuum as real particles. This is where the electron eventually comes from: the vacuum. Mesons decays into pions which in their turn decays into muons which then decays

[Vo]:Bioluminescent/Glowing Deep Sea Creatures

2014-10-20 Thread H Veeder
Amazing Bioluminescent/Glowing Deep Sea Creatures https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD7thJVRKmQ ​Harry​

[Vo]:“I don’t care who gets there first, how it happens,” he says. “I just want to see it happen.”

2014-10-20 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/blog/techflash/2014/10/raleigh-investor-darden-still-bullish-on.html?page=all I was re-reading this, and I strongly agree with one of the comments. “I don’t care who gets there first, how it happens,” he says. “I just want to see it happen.” The statement is

RE: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread Jones Beene
From: H Veeder * Other examples of light emitting bodies which do not follow the incandescent temperature rule are phosphorescent and fluorescent bodies. Yup. And as far back as 1886 it was noticed that alumina, in one form, was phosphorescent. A paper by Crookes (the one of radiometer

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2014-10-20 Thread Jones Beene
From: Blaze Spinnaker http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/blog/techflash/2014/10/raleigh-investor-darden-still-bullish-on.html?page=all * I was re-reading this, and I strongly agree with one of the comments….“I don’t care who gets there first, how it happens,” he says. “I just want to

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread Terry Blanton
Static electricity. If I'm right, it has a positive charge. It's probably asking too much for a electric field meter, eh?

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2014-10-20 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
I don't care who gets there first. Not sure how you can possibly interpret that any other way. Obviously he wants to be first otherwise he'd give away the IP. On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: *From:* Blaze Spinnaker

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2014-10-20 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Or at the very least, he'd trust / take a chance that the patent office will give him a patent. On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: I don't care who gets there first. Not sure how you can possibly interpret that any other way. Obviously he

Re: [Vo]:The Big Banks are Certainly Paying Attention to the E-Cat

2014-10-20 Thread Bob Cook
Axil, Chuck, etal-- I would add that the presence of a magnetic field reduces the locations the PSI allows and increases the probability that any two particles will occupy the same location. IMO this is a basis for controlling the rate of reactions in NAE. I also consider it is improper not

[Vo]:Answerable questions, to the 6 professors re the Lugano test

2014-10-20 Thread Axil Axil
Answerable questions, to the 6 professors re the Lugano test Mr. Rossi has identified a EMF anomaly that he calls strange power emanating from the Hot-Cat that he has yet to explain. Since the Hot-Cat was unshielded electromagnetically, did you make any attempt to examine the Hot-Cat for EMF

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread Bob Cook
Axil-- Regarding you concern about the Hot Cat EMF, Rossi in August noted the following: The external surface of the Hot-Cat is electrically insulated, for obvious safety reasons. Currents are out of the reaction but inside the Hot Cat. If you touch any external part of the Hot Cat you do not

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread Bob Cook
Terry-- Note Rossi's statement in August The external surface of the Hot-Cat is electrically insulated, for obvious safety reasons. Currents are out of the reaction but inside the Hot Cat. If you touch any external part of the Hot Cat you do not feel any current nor measure any

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread Axil Axil
My interest in the EMF characterization of the Ecat is a theoretical one, not a safety issue (unless the EMF issues involves huge and disruptive anomalies) On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Axil-- Regarding you concern about the Hot Cat EMF, Rossi in

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread Brad Lowe
Rossi responds to the claim that the color of the alumina at 1300°C is white heat” by saying: stupidity, Alumina becomes white heat only when it melts at 2070°C and compare it to the glass is an elementary mistake http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=853cpage=14#comment-1013594 - Brad

RE: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread Jones Beene
Furthermore… If the grade of Inconel was 625 or 617 - either or which contains about ¼ of the alloy as chromium, then the ppm “bleed” from these wires into an alumina coating or paste could provide redish phosphorescent color. It requires very little chrome for a ruby glow. We should know

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread Craig Haynie
I'm a novice at this, (so please correct me if I'm wrong), but it didn't take long to find references to the idea that ideal black-body radiation color has to be modified by an emissivity factor. Emissivity is a modifying factor used in single color thermometry to achieve a correct

[Vo]:Anticipate updates to report

2014-10-20 Thread H Veeder
Andrea Rossi October 20th, 2014 at 10:18 AM JCRenoir: The Professors told me that they are discussing the questions that merit an answer and that will answer to such questions by means of updates of the report published on http://www.elforsk.se/LENR-mattrapport-publicerad Their report will be

[Vo]:Deuterium-Hydrogen and Superconductivity

2014-10-20 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex-L Not suspected: http://phys.org/news/2014-10-wild-molecular-interactions-hydrogen-mixture.html Ad Astra, Ron Kita, Chiralex Doylestown PA

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread H Veeder
In this context the temperature /T/ ​ is known​ a-priori ​and the output power /q/ ​is known ​ a posteriori , so emissivity /ε/ ​will​ adjust the ouptut power downwards ​if​ 0 ​ ​ ​ ​ /ε/ 1 q = ε σ T^4 A ​Harry​ On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread Craig Haynie
On 10/20/2014 04:30 PM, H Veeder wrote: In this context the temperature /T/ ​ is known​ a-priori ​ and the output power /q/ ​ is known ​ a posteriori , so emissivity /ε/ ​ will​ adjust the ouptut power downwards ​ if​ 0 ​ ​ ​ ​ /ε/ 1 q = ε σ T^4 A ​Harry​ Right, but the internal

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2014-10-20 Thread Alain Sepeda
goal of a patent is not only to prevent others to copy your technology, but mostly to prevent competitors to use your own technology. patent don't work very well, but their main effect is that some patent troll can block real innovators. this is why people like amazon patent thinks like photo of

Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread Alain Sepeda
speculation on the inconel, the photography are good for question, but theres too many uncertainties... maybe the resistor is not at all inconel, and the inconel is only used for connecting wires, or they are not even the classic inconel but some variant... for the color, may main hypotheis is

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2014-10-20 Thread Lennart Thornros
Of course Darden's statement is what it is supposed to be. I am sure he is constantly trying to handle his golden goose. That is a rather taxing job I am sure. Like always the patent problem is huge. There is no protection in any patent if you have not:: 1. Enough capital and time (manpower) to

Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread Patrick Ellul
From rossi: The coils of the reactor are made with a proptietary alloy, and the inconel is only a doped component of it. And The nature and composition of the coils are of paramount importance in our IP and for obvious reasons I will not give any more information And stupidity, Alumina

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread H Veeder
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/20/2014 04:30 PM, H Veeder wrote: In this context the temperature /T/ ​ is known​ a-priori ​ and the output power /q/ ​ is known ​ a posteriori , so emissivity /ε/ ​ will​ adjust the ouptut power

Re: [Vo]:Japan's homeless recruited for murky Fukushima clean-up

2014-10-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: known for having many tattoos (meaning they are gangsters). Yakuza? That means gangster in Japanese. No particular group as far as I know. The old school ones often have tattoos. - Jed

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2014-10-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: If that statement were true, than Darden would take his chances with the US patent office and open up the IP for replication. That would not work. No one will develop cold fusion without IP protection. Consider this: it took roughly $1 billion

[Vo]:The scientific method

2014-10-20 Thread John Berry
Of course there really isn't a neatly described scientific method. But I just read a quote that underlies what must be recognized by anyone interested in a scientific revolution... *Kuhn makes clear in The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, the requirement for change in a scientific paradigm

[Vo]:Interesting Alumina

2014-10-20 Thread Patrick Ellul
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_oxide As well, it is used as a *dosimeter for radiation* protection and therapy applications for its *optically stimulated luminescence properties.[citation needed]* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dosimeter

Re: [Vo]:The Big Banks are Certainly Paying Attention to the E-Cat

2014-10-20 Thread CB Sites
That is an interesting point that I've not thought about, but Nickel does express a degree of magnetic susceptibility that is unlike other metals. So right there, Ni's spin influence is part of the mix. In a lattice dislocation (like the NAE Dr. Storms argues for), the spin of the Ni atoms in the

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread H Veeder
Maybe Jed is right. See this subjective colour temperature chart: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_radiation#Subjective_color_to_the_eye_of_a_black_body_thermal_radiator ​ Contrast with this chart which are presumably the true temperature colours.

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread Craig Haynie
But the question I've been trying to ask, isn't the color adjusted by the emissivity factor? So if the emissivity is 0.75, then doesn't this mean that the observed color is less than the actual temperature? Craig On 10/20/2014 11:43 PM, H Veeder wrote: Maybe Jed is right. See this

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread H Veeder
​ On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: But the question I've been trying to ask, isn't the color adjusted by the emissivity factor? So if the emissivity is 0.75, then doesn't this mean that the observed color is less than the actual temperature?

Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.com wrote: From rossi: The coils of the reactor are made with a proptietary alloy, and the inconel is only a doped component of it. And The nature and composition of the coils are of paramount importance in our IP and for

Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: With what we currently know, ultimately one must take the details on faith, which is precisely what skeptics will not want to do. Obviously this is not the mode of science. The report provided little to follow upon via scientific investigation. It was more like a piece of long-form

Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread H Veeder
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: If the outside surface temperature really is 1400 deg C, then the outside surface material should be incandescent white. It does not matter what the inside temperature is. All materials glow with the same incandescent

Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread H Veeder
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: From: H Veeder Ø Other examples of light emitting bodies which* do not* follow the incandescent temperature rule are phosphorescent and fluorescent bodies. Yup. And as far back as 1886 it was noticed that

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread H Veeder
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: But the question I've been trying to ask, isn't the color adjusted by the emissivity factor? So if the emissivity is 0.75, then doesn't this mean that the observed color is less than the actual temperature?