Probably at that temperature the hydrogen will leak very fast through the cell
even if it is sealed properly
Peter v Noorden
From: Bob Higgins
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 5:36 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The MFMP replication effort live on youtube.
Based on analysis
It's very difficult to make this type of seal. When the cement is wet, the
hydrogen easily passes through. I use a dangerous gas detector as I heat
it up, but as yet, have not achieved a seal in experiments I've tried. A
lot of the cement requires heating to fully cure, but heating causes
Why don't just ask Parkhomov?
2014-12-31 9:23 GMT-02:00 Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com:
It's very difficult to make this type of seal. When the cement is wet,
the hydrogen easily passes through. I use a dangerous gas detector as I
heat it up, but as yet, have not achieved a seal in experiments
Yes!
On Wednesday, December 31, 2014, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote:
You mean, achieved a device to bring on global cooling??
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 6:58 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cheme...@gmail.com'); wrote:
It could have been worse, we
Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote:
Based on analysis of Lugano and Parkhomov work, excess heat begins at about
950C. The MFMP dogbone core was measured to be over 1200C and no excess
heat was found.
As I said, I have a feeling that is too hot. I think the Lugano temperature
may have
Is it possible--safe-- to cure the glue under a H2 atmosphere and pressure to
allow the sealing to occur with adequate H2? If O2 is necessary for curing,
maybe a different high temperature cement would work.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Bob Higgins
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
CB Sites wrote:
Wow, Replication fails. They had the dog bone so hot the steel stand
holding it was white hot. But power in was equal to power out. No radiation.
My take on it was that the MFMP dogbone may suffer from a bad design choice,
more so than from a leak.
The
I think the heater is a heater; and Kanthal as the heater wire has nothing
to do with it. We now believe that Rossi may have used a SiC heater
element and that also has no Ni.
I also don't believe that the H2 just comes out through the 99.8% high
purity alumina reactor tube.
The tubes MFMP
Bob--
Seal under inert gas pressure--100 bar if necessary. That should keep the H2
in with only diffusion gradient acting to let the H2 out. Add some H2 to the
inert gas so that there is no H2 concentration gradient. This would be safer
than a pure H2 atmosphere.
Bob
- Original
Didn't Rossi's dogbone have some sort of coating on the outside? It may have
acted as a high temperature hermetic seal. I would think any porosity would
allow Li and H2 to get out. Does Li form a diatomic gas at high temperature?
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Bob Higgins
To:
From: Bob Higgins
*
* I think the heater is a heater; and Kanthal as the heater wire has
nothing to do with it. We now believe that Rossi may have used a SiC heater
element and that also has no Ni.
The SiC is nonsense. You have no basis for the belief that kanthal has nothing
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 12:58 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
It could have been worse, we could have lost heat from the universe
This worried James Joule.
Harry
On Wednesday, December 31, 2014, CB Sites cbsit...@gmail.com wrote:
As best as I could tell, it looks like
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On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
*From:* Bob Higgins
Ø I think the heater is a heater; and Kanthal as the heater wire
has nothing to do with it. We now believe that Rossi may have used a SiC
heater element and that also has
My dear Blog friends!
Thank you for your existence and attention- you are now
my great Family. Let's happily work together in the coming year;
I hope it will be a year of great and good changes and amazing
progress for LENR and specifically the LENR+ energy sources.
The same message with more
Why smart people defend bad ideas
http://scottberkun.com/essays/40-why-smart-people-defend-bad-ideas/
excerpt:
The second stop on our tour of commonly defended bad ideas is the
seemingly friendly notion of communal thinking. Just because everyone in
the room is smart doesn’t mean that
Jed, The setup used by MFMP uses the surrounding room temperature as the sink
for heat generated within their device. That should appear cooler to the
actual heat generating device than a water cooled metal container which is at
approximately 100 C.
I would also believe that convection
From: Bob Higgins
* JB: Then you are mistaken. The purity is immaterial – the porosity is
everything. Of course, if MFMP used a fused tube then that is another design
flaw.
* BH: The tube MFMP used is a high purity, high (near theoretical)
density alumina tube
Well, there you
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On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
*From:* Bob Higgins
Ø JB: Then you are mistaken. The purity is immaterial – the
porosity is everything. Of course, if MFMP used a fused tube then that is
another design flaw.
Ø BH:
Idiocy.
Science is driven by experiment over argument.
When you insist on contaminating every human ecology with every other human
ecology you violate a central tenant of science: controlled
experimentation.
When failures occur under cirumstances of enforced contamination you are
left with
I think you mean to say science SHOULD BE driven by experiments over
arguments.
However if science were driven by experiments, this list would not need to
exist.
John
On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 8:21 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Idiocy.
Science is driven by experiment over
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
What puzzles me the most is why such a small amount of nickel is not
completely vaporized by an emission of that much heat. Again, this
suggests the possibility that the LENR output is low energy photons, which
SUSY (super symmetry) is not supported by experimentation but it is
absolutely required to make the standard model work, and 10 billion dollars
spent to find SUSY experimentally. How many smart people do particle
physics? Is particle physics FUBAR?
I guess the reason is that LENR has always been considered a condensed
matter reaction, not a gas or liquid phase reaction. The alumina is still
solid, even if the Ni is not. If we consider the Ni to be the LENR active
material, I presumed it needed to be in some form of condensed state.
On
When thinking about the importance of cold in many Quantum Phenomena, I
wondered if the reason has to do with heat being microscopic motion and
collision of atoms, and shouldn't a collision collapse a wave function?
And would collapsing wave functions be a bit of an issue when trying to
establish
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Jed, The setup used by MFMP uses the surrounding room temperature as the
sink for heat generated within their device.
Room temperature air. Water transfers heat a lot better. I'll bet there is
a larger temperature difference between the inside and the
From: Bob Higgins
* CoorsTek is the major supplier of such alumina forms - they have been
around forever in this market. The choice is AD998 (99.8% alumina) or mullite
( http://css.coorstek.com/scripts/css512.wsc/op/op_indexB2C.html ).
Yes - CoorsTek is no doubt the major US supplier,
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On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
*From:* Bob Higgins
Ø None of these substrates are porous.
That may not be true for even the specialty material CoorsTek 998, but
clearly 96% is porous and in fact anything less than 100%
Dave and others--
The temperature gradient in the dog bone--center to outside-- should make a
difference in the concentration of hydrogen and other volatile/mobile species
like lithium. They would tend to condense in the outer parts of the dog bone.
If Ni is volatile like Higgins thinks it
The dogbone is essentially a tube furnace. The fuel is placed in a
separate alumina tube with one end molded closed and having a 4mm bore
(like Lugano) that is sealed with an alumina plug. This tube with the fuel
is called the reaction tube and is about 1/4 in diameter and 8 long. The
reaction
I would agree with you completely if the cylinder were in direct contact with
the water bath. But, it appears from the diagram that the water is located a
distance from the cylinder and is not in direct contact. This configuration is
a little like baking in an oven. The heat from the active
-- Forwarded message --
From: Randy Mills rmi...@blacklightpower.com [SocietyforClassicalPhysics]
societyforclassicalphys...@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [SocietyforClassicalPhysics] a mixture of nickel and lithium
aluminum hydride
To:
From: Bob Higgins
Ø The fact that the alumina is not 100% theoretically dense does not mean
that the remainder is air/porosity. The remainder is a much lighter weight
silicate glass in the grain boundaries
The density of silicates is slightly lower than alumina - 2.65 compared to 3.95
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 2:39 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
In either of these three cases I would expect the active device to get
hotter than had it been subjected to open air cooling. The trend is the
same.
The device may be hotter than it would be in the case of open-air
Happy New Yea to all.
Thanks for the blog posts - I read them frequently but usually have no
objections or disagreements.
Salut, prosit and skal to you Peter.
Best Regards ,
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Bob,
Do you need to take into consideration the fact that a small gap exists between
the outer furnace and the inner core tube? Is the contact good enough to limit
the thermal resistance of this space? Any heat power flowing through that path
would cause a rise in temperature of the core.
Eric, the calibration apparently is accurate according to the text. I would
guess that the insulation surrounding the water jacket and the addition of
extra insulation on the top surface ensures that most of the heat ends up
within the water. The calibration is key.
Dave
-Original
Happy New Year,
Unfortunately science is not driven by experiments. I rather say that it is
driven by politics.
However, we could make 2015 the year we just do not listen to politics. The
problem as described in the article emanates from our politicians in DC and
corresponding places.
We allow
I think it's a valid point to check the inner alumina tube for leaks, which
can probably be done by careful postmortem. Also I wonder if the alumina
tube holding the Ni - LiAlH4 was sealed in a vacum. That would be the only
other concern is if it was filled under a vacum, or pumped down is if
Ryan cemented a type-B platinum thermocouple though the center of the
plug. So he had actual data on the core temperature which got to about
1200C. The thermocouple at the surface only reported getting to about 850C
at the same time. Parkhomov measured his temperature in between - on the
H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com quoted some good and bad ideas:
On your own, avoid homogenous books, films, music, food, sex, media and
people.
What does non-homogenous sex mean? With other people? My wife would object.
I do not see what music or food has to do with being open to ideas. Arthur
I wrote:
Japanese popular music, being broadcast at this moment in the annual
Kohaku Uta Gassen, is saccharine glop.
Here is the ne *plus ultra* example. Watch if you dare; you risk kawaii
(cute) apoplexy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAP6ogjTBSE
This is so bad it is almost good. The
I think that different countries of origin is an important thing, different
first languages.
These things have huge impacts on thinking. Which colours someone can see
is effected by what language they are thinking in (proven in experiments).
Qualified, and unqualified is another important one,
Jed wrote:
I will add you to my auto-delete file, to eliminate this irritation.
***Jed, please don't. I enjoy your exchanges with Blaze. It's so
entertaining and you always add some measure of fact that I had not
considered beforehand. Chalk it up to the education process.
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014
HPYMMXV!
James, it sounds like you are having a bad day.
harry
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 2:55 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote:
I think you mean to say science SHOULD BE driven by experiments over
arguments.
However if science were driven by experiments, this list would not need to
exist.
watch more French cinema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbAohexT0Ho
Harry
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com quoted some good and bad ideas:
On your own, avoid homogenous books, films, music, food, sex, media and
Ryan Hunt (HUG, MFMP) did a post-mortem on the reactor tube from the first
experiment with the dogbone and fuel as described by Parkhomov. He found a
gross failure of the seal of the plug in the tube. Also, because he didn't
shake it to distribute the powder, the powder ended up in the opposite
Well, Jed,
Yuko Ogura looks to be about 16. But according to Wikipedia she was born
November 1, 1983, making her well over 30 years old. She still looks like jail
bait to me. When was this song videoed? Fifteen years ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuko_Ogura
Oh my gosh! She's married
Terry Sez
HPYMMXV!
Charm sez MEOW back.
c u NY
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
svjart.orionworks.com
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