Re: [Vo]:The melting miracle

2015-01-02 Thread ChemE Stewart
I had that weird thought too that the reactor might be generating microwave radiation and heating the water... Tin foil hat time again On Friday, January 2, 2015, Ken Deboer barlaz...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding the 'shell' of various LENR reactors, I wonder if someone could recap or comment

Re: [Vo]:The melting miracle

2015-01-02 Thread Ken Deboer
Regarding the 'shell' of various LENR reactors, I wonder if someone could recap or comment on what the history has been and what some of the considerations and rational were behind them. Most reactors have been built around steel if I'm not mistaken, and some of glass. The new Rossi model is of

RE: [Vo]:The melting miracle

2015-01-02 Thread Jones Beene
From: Ken Deboer Ø Regarding the 'shell' of various LENR reactors, I wonder if someone could recap or comment on what the history has been and what some of the considerations and rational were behind them. Most reactors have been built around steel if I'm not mistaken, and some of

[Vo]:Judgement deadline for CFsn 1/1/2015

2015-01-02 Thread James Bowery
Claim CFsn - Cold Fusion http://ideosphere.com/fx-bin/Claim?claim=CFsn Category: *Science Technology:Physics*bid 0, ask 2, last 2Owner:0, Bank ( i...@ideosphere.com)Judge:306, SMWinnie (smwin...@yahoo.com)created: 1994/09/23due date:TBDThe Claim Cold fusion of deuterium in palladium can produce

[Vo]:who can lead a LENR+ dialog?

2015-01-02 Thread Peter Gluck
Please read first Georgina's nice post of today, because what I say here: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/01/shared-lenr-ideas-january-2-2015.html is rather sad and unpleasant. It is also real, but this makes the situation worse. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania

[Vo]:Re: live - grr... dogboneRe:

2015-01-02 Thread Mark Jurich
Does any1 have the GOOGLE+ Hangout URL? ... Thnx From: a.ashfield Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 3:03 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:live - grr... dogboneRe: The second test is under way. Temperature currently over 400C

Re: [Vo]:live - grr... dogbone

2015-01-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Ya' gotta love the 21st century. This seems kind of pointless. Why not read the data a week later? Still, it is fun! The technical chatter makes it sound like NASA. Impressive! I wish Arthur Clarke had lived to see this. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:live - grr... dogboneRe:

2015-01-02 Thread a.ashfield
The second test is under way. Temperature currently over 400C https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=IQlqzLzQDUA

[Vo]:live - grr... dogbone

2015-01-02 Thread Jones Beene
Not much happening, but 95 viewers are tuned in.

[Vo]:Porosity vs.Purity

2015-01-02 Thread Jones Beene
CB Sites wrote: * Just doing a search, here is an article discussing hydrogen permeation of Alumina at high temperatures. http://www.academia.edu/7323157/GAS_PERMEATION_PROPERTIES_OF_HYDROGEN_PERMEABLE_MACROPOROUS_ALUMINA_CERAMIC_MEMBRANES_AT_HIGH_TEMPERATURE * Of course this is

Re: [Vo]:Re: The MFMP replication effort live on youtube.

2015-01-02 Thread John Berry
Under certain conditions the fine structure constant has been found to differ from the regular value. On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Doing science inside the dog bone can be like doing science inside another universe. There is no certainty that physics or

Re: [Vo]:live - grr... dogbone

2015-01-02 Thread Axil Axil
Lithium hydride does not decompose at 900C when the pressure is high. The pressure that is being read in this system must be a vapor state of LiH. It seems to me that pure dissociated hydrogen will be hard to come by in such a high pressure system. On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Bob Cook

[Vo]:Re: live - grr... dogbone

2015-01-02 Thread Mark Jurich
A dual coil eddy current pressure transducer is way more immune to magnetic field, radiation and noise, but costs $6k instead of the $500 one they have. It also can go to 580C or so, instead of 85C as this one, in use. - Mark Jurich From: Bob Cook Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 5:34 PM To:

Re: [Vo]:live - grr... dogbone

2015-01-02 Thread Bob Cook
I think it would be interesting to test a similar pressure transducer to the one that they are using to understand how it operates under a varying magnetic or electric fields. It may be that local conditions are affecting the transducer and are indicative of unexpected electric or magnetic

Re: [Vo]:live - grr... dogbone

2015-01-02 Thread Bob Cook
I am glad to see that with 30% pressure swings indicated, the operator decided to at least wear a face mask. I think I heard that the tube was good for 1000 psi and they were getting indications of over 600 psi with large swings. It appeared they did not believe their pressure sensor. I

[Vo]:Re: live - grr... dogbone

2015-01-02 Thread Mark Jurich
Yes, it’s me ... Since Bob Greenyer reads over here, I will post the info for this beast, in a sec. - Mark Jurich From: Jed Rothwell Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 6:23 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: live - grr... dogbone Mark Jurich jur...@hotmail.com wrote: A dual

Re: [Vo]:Re: live - grr... dogbone

2015-01-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mark Jurich jur...@hotmail.com wrote: A dual coil eddy current pressure transducer is way more immune to magnetic field, radiation and noise, but costs $6k instead of the $500 one they have. In the YouTube talk window someone mentioned a $6,000 pressure meter: Justa Guy

Re: [Vo]:Re: live - grr... dogbone

2015-01-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
A shout out to you, Mark! Someone there just read your remarks. Yo: MFMP, that Geiger counter makes a heck of a racket. It hurt my ears! Can you cover it up or turn down the volume? Granted, it does make ths sound like a real old-fashioned experiment.

[Vo]:Capacitor May not give true results

2015-01-02 Thread David Roberson
Guys, the capacitor might be a bad load for the sensor circuitry. I would be suspicious that the output circuit can not operate into the large capacitor you are using. Dave

Re: [Vo]:Re: live - grr... dogbone

2015-01-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
LIGHTS OUT! Incandescent glow. This is fun. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:live - grr... dogbone

2015-01-02 Thread CB Sites
Well that was another fun dog bone experiment to watch. After all the discussion on a leaking inner chamber, someone wisely decided to abandon the alumina cylinder for stainless steal and add a pressure sensor to it! Unfortunately it took way to get the noise out of the pressure readings, so it

[Vo]:Sealing the Dog Bone

2015-01-02 Thread Axil Axil
Let us not underestimate Rossi. The account of how Rossi loaded the fuel into the alumina tubes told by the TPR2 report does not sound like Rossi when through a complicated time consuming and/or involved alumina sealing process to protect against hydrogen leakage. An excerpt from the Lugano

Re: [Vo]:A bombshell of a different type?

2015-01-02 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 7:21 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 8 Oct 2014 09:22:13 -0700: Hi, [snip] Li7 + Ni58 = Ni59 + Li6 + 1.75 MeV Li7 + Ni59 = Ni60 + Li6 + 4.14 MeV Li7 + Ni60 = Ni61 + Li6 + 0.57 MeV Li7 + Ni61 = Ni62 + Li6 + 3.34 MeV Li7 + Ni62

Re: [Vo]:The melting miracle

2015-01-02 Thread Bob Cook
I for one did not understand that the center tube was made from stainless steel. Apparently it was not sealed very well. The access port for the pressure transducer to allow it to sense pressure, but remain at below 85 degrees, probably leaked. That design and the welding or bonding of the

Re: [Vo]:Re: live - grr... dogbone

2015-01-02 Thread Mark Jurich
KAMAN High Temperature Pressure Measuring Systems, KP-1911 and KP-2025 Series: http://www.kamansensors.com/pdf_files/kaman_high_pressure_sensors_manual_web.pdf ... I’ll try to post more info on this, tonight. I recall it’s just above $6k. - Mark Jurich From: Mark Jurich Sent: Friday,

Re: [Vo]:The melting miracle

2015-01-02 Thread ChemE Stewart
I think a grounded metal pail might act like a faraday cage and absorb EMF, but if it was open at the top microwaves not absorbed by the water should leak out On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:40 AM, ChemE Stewart

Re: [Vo]:The melting miracle

2015-01-02 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:40 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: I had that weird thought too that the reactor might be generating microwave radiation and heating the water... Would the microwaves make it through the metal pail? Eric

Re: [Vo]:Re: live - grr... dogbone

2015-01-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Justa Guy: Hello, MFMP Justa Guy: Ryan? Open the pod bay door, Hal. Hal! Do you read me? - Jed