Re: [Vo]:Message that will not post

2015-01-18 Thread John Berry
I posted it as a test, but I should have removed the END at the bottom as I assume that was not in the rejected post. Looks like it got through, so not idea why it didn't post from Jed's account. Maybe some funny encoding got put in the original that did not survive copy and paste? On Mon, Jan

Re: [Vo]:Message that will not post

2015-01-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: I will look for the designs that I can repair. The LENR devices should be like a navy reactor where the sailors can do the repairs. That is not going to happen, I am afraid. The whole trend of technology for the past 50 years has been towards modularity

Re: [Vo]:Message that will not post

2015-01-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: There is a sticking point with this one idea, however -- there's an economic incentive for vendors to set things up so that people are locked into their own technology. If you bought an Apple computer and lose or destroy the power adapter . . .

[Vo]:Message that will not post

2015-01-18 Thread John Berry
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Your vision of the LENR future is too limited. I am not talking about LENR. I am talking about the economics and cost efficiency of different energy systems, such as central generation, PV and -- in the future -- LENR. Every technology has built-in

Re: [Vo]:A strange and screwy claim by Piantelli

2015-01-18 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 17 Jan 2015 23:31:24 -0500: Hi, [snip] http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2015/01/13/hot-cat-replication-attempt/ see power drops near 3393 and 3499, but output temperature stays constant. Note that the time is in 5 second increments. Need to check exactly

Re: [Vo]:two answers from Bazhutov and current LENR news

2015-01-18 Thread Bob Cook
Most all in Alaska will embrace the technology immediately--I for one. That state will lead the rest to realizing the advantages of local power generation, and there it will be only a technology update to existing local power generation. the success of LENR will spread by word of mouth like

Re: [Vo]:Message that will not post

2015-01-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe some funny encoding got put in the original that did not survive copy and paste? I thought that might be it, so I copied, pasted and sent it again in the same thread, Why cold fusion will not need . . . I got the reject notice and I checked the

Re: [Vo]:Message that will not post

2015-01-18 Thread Bob Cook
I will look for the designs that I can repair. The LENR devices should be like a navy reactor where the sailors can do the repairs. If you cannot buy replacements in the drug store, I'll look for a different model. Cars were like that. Hopefully it will be too easy to produce simple units

Re: [Vo]:Why cold fusion will not need any grid

2015-01-18 Thread John Berry
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Your vision of the LENR future is too limited. I am not talking about LENR. I am talking about the economics and cost efficiency of different energy systems, such as central generation, PV and -- in the future -- LENR. Every technology has built-in

[Vo]:Heater circuit problems

2015-01-18 Thread Axil Axil
So sorry, please excuse me but I have developed an opinion. These heater power failures are caused by the LENR reaction and if not immediately countered, these power drops will delay the onset of the LENR reaction. A 5 seconds response time to counter is far to long a time delay to increase the

[Vo]:Happy Birthday Jones

2015-01-18 Thread Frank Znidarsic

Re: [Vo]:Why cold fusion will not need any grid

2015-01-18 Thread Axil Axil
http://phys.org/news/2015-01-einstein-spooky-action-quantum-networks.html Quantum entanglement is contagious. If the number of LENR units is pervasive inside your house, the level of entanglement in your house may reach a critical level that may not be good for you. Your body may be absorbed into

Re: [Vo]:Why cold fusion will not need any grid

2015-01-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://phys.org/news/2015-01-einstein-spooky-action-quantum-networks.html Quantum entanglement is contagious. If the number of LENR units is pervasive inside your house, the level of entanglement in your house may reach a critical level that may not be good

Re: [Vo]:Why cold fusion will not need any grid

2015-01-18 Thread Axil Axil
The EPR paradox pointed out that two well-separated systems can have a strange type of quantum connection, so that what happens in one system seems to immediately affect the other. This connection has recently been called 'EPR steering entanglement'. EPR steering is the nonlocality – what Albert

[Vo]:Message that will not post

2015-01-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
[This is strange. This message keeps coming back with an error. It is not important, but let me post half of it to see what is rejected. Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Your vision of the LENR future is too limited. I am not talking about LENR. I am talking about the economics and cost

Re: [Vo]:Message that will not post

2015-01-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
[Here is the rest . . . I wonder if this will post.] Standards are narrowed down to one or two for many reasons, primarily because the design engineers, tech support people, service people and others can only master one or two techniques, and there is a limited amount of RD money. Once a good

Re: [Vo]:two answers from Bazhutov and current LENR news

2015-01-18 Thread Lennart Thornros
I am absolutely sure we will have a large portion of the population change to a LENR generator as soon as it is made available. I do not think it will happen over night. Many reasons for that all based on the fact that changes are always hard to accept for most people. Utilities and government

Re: [Vo]:Message that will not post

2015-01-18 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: It is because manufacturers, people, and society as a whole are not inclined to test many different implementations after a reasonably good one is found. We find something that works and we stick to it. Overall the

Re: [Vo]:A strange and screwy claim by Piantelli

2015-01-18 Thread Jack Cole
Hi Bob, The power steps from 10,30,50,70, 90 watts (equal intervals of 1 hour). The temperature is not constant. The resistance is actually increasing during the control run, but you can't see it in that chart because of the scale. The resistance was determined by V/I. The resistance of the

Re: [Vo]:A strange and screwy claim by Piantelli

2015-01-18 Thread Bob Cook
Jack-- Thanks for that info. Bob - Original Message - From: Jack Cole To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 3:59 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:A strange and screwy claim by Piantelli Hi Bob, The power steps from 10,30,50,70, 90 watts (equal intervals of 1

Re: [Vo]:two answers from Bazhutov and current LENR news

2015-01-18 Thread Alain Sepeda
where does came the idea that DC is safer ? as engineer during high power electronic course I was clearly taught that 100V DC was sure deadly with no chance to survive (you get stuck on the wire until you die), while 220AC is quite forgiving with a chance to escape 100 time a second... is that

Re: [Vo]:two answers from Bazhutov and current LENR news

2015-01-18 Thread Teslaalset
My traditional ernergy bill consists of an amount that can roughly be split as follows: - 10-20% transport to home - 60-70% tax - 10-30% raw energy costs This with all having profits and overhead included. LENR reactors will certainly challence such model in the Netherlands. Apart from domestic

Re: [Vo]:two answers from Bazhutov and current LENR news

2015-01-18 Thread Alain Sepeda
my vision on evolution of electricity is based on jed vision. the big question is how the utilities, the grid will react. if the grid moves quickly to a microgrid, a mesh-grid, a smart producer grid, then people will be happy to save some investment on their CHP with a sharing platform. If as I

[Vo]:lectures, plans, one announcement

2015-01-18 Thread Peter Gluck
Please read: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/01/lenr-progress-new-player-announced.html LENR+ has to prevail faster... Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

[Vo]:the hole truth and nothing but

2015-01-18 Thread Jones Beene
The element Lithium appears in LENR from the start. PF and many others used lithium hydroxide as electrolyte. Now this element is poised to take center stage. But 25 years after its first appearance, there is no certainty whether the role of lithium is as a necessary ingredient or is merely

Re: [Vo]:Why cold fusion will not need any grid

2015-01-18 Thread Axil Axil
Jed, Your vision of the LENR future is too limited. A LENR reactor will function like a battery where the required current is supplied intelligently. These units will plug either into your house circuit or and/or each of your appliances as an option. The Constitution of the USA will be amended

Re: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2015-01-18 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:15:45 -0500: Hi, [snip] We do not yet know what sort of ash Ni-H cold fusion reactions produce. If Storms is correct, the ash is deuterium which is impossible to detect with this configuration. ...just for the sake of comparison, the

[Vo]:Why cold fusion will not need any grid

2015-01-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: the big question is how the utilities, the grid will react. if the grid moves quickly to a microgrid, a mesh-grid, a smart producer grid, then people will be happy to save some investment on their CHP with a sharing platform. I predict that cold