RE: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-07 Thread Jones Beene
From: alain.coetm...@gmail.com Ø the statement I refer to were not in the report, but were specific answer given later. Yes that is a major problem – a recollection coming months later from the memory of an embarrassed scientist who had already been caught napping on the job – is

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-07 Thread Alain Sepeda
the statement I refer to were not in the report, but were specific answer given later. in fact teh statement in the report was ambiguous. They explain that he was just present... It seems to be said by Bo Hoistad

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-07 Thread Bob Cook
Eric-- I have reservations as to the some of the statements for the following reasons: 1. I take emissivity to be the ratio of specific power (energy/unit area/unit time) of all EM radiation (photons)being emitted from a SURFACE of a body at thermal equilibrium (one that is at a constant

[Vo]:How to kill a LENR Fire Bird

2015-03-07 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Friends, Something strange happens just now, it is a plot to kill the Lugano test- LENR's first Fire Bird. See: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/03/defending-lenr-fire-bird.html This had to be taken more than seriously, but not too seriously It is a well organized, concerted

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-07 Thread Alain Sepeda
Dear Bob, and dear all, I call for review, as I don't master planck and boltzmann law, with emissivity curves. From what I've heard, what i've read on the Optris datasheet, I've made some assumption and computed few things about lugano and optris... see here

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Does the faulty analysis of the Lugano test cast doubt on the conclusions of the earlier test? Only insofar as it casts doubt on the competence of the researchers. They did not make any of these serious mistakes in the first tests. I cannot imagine

RE: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-07 Thread Jones Beene
From: alain.coetm...@gmail.com * Rossi had physical control of the samples which were tested. * non, the testers refuted that claim. he was watching, but did not operate No, Alain – you did

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-07 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
https://rossiisreal.wordpress.com/2015/03/07/probability-now-9/ Have fun everyone, it's been a blast. On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: *From:* *alain.coetm...@gmail.com* alain.coetm...@gmail.com Ø Rossi had physical control of the samples which

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-07 Thread Alain Sepeda
Rossi had physical control of the samples which were tested. non, the testers refuted that calim. he was watching, but did not operate 2015-03-07 1:45 GMT+01:00 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net: *From:* Bob Cook Jones-- What about Levi's Ni isotopic changes? Does your 1COP2 fit with

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-07 Thread Alain Sepeda
this does not change the fact that Industrial Heat gave a reactor with freedom to test anything on it. This happened also in Ferrara. this alone rule out fraud. once you rule out fraud on the calorimetry, you know that at least IH think it's reactor works. The hypothesis og isotope manipulation

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-07 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: See: https://gsvit.wordpress.com/2015/03/02/tpr2-calorimetry-of-hot-cat-performed-by-means-of-ir-camera-2/ See also: https://docs.google.com/a/node.io/file/d/0B5Pc25a4cOM2Zl9FWDFWSUpXc0U/edit

RE: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-07 Thread Jones Beene
This experiment was never independent and there never was freedom to test samples without permission. Fraud cannot be ruled out. The only good thing that came out of it was Parkhomov’s experiment and others in progress which we will hear more about soon. Patience, Peter, patience. Rossi had

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-07 Thread torulf.greek
There are still a possible fraud in isotopes in purpose to mislead competitors. On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 21:46:45 +0100, Alain Sepeda wrote: this does not change the fact that Industrial Heat gave a reactor with freedom to test anything on it. This happened also in Ferrara. this alone rule out

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-07 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Since Rossi was in control at the critical points – the fraud issue revolves around his honesty. What you say is true. But in applying this standard, it seems we are going well beyond the kind of protocol that academic