Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-08 Thread Bob Cook
Keep in mind that Rossi and Focardi--a respected scientist--worked hand in hand and Rossi did not reveal all the engineering of the reactor to Focardi. I do not think there was any fraud on anyone's part. Lastly, I would say Rossi was a victim of fraud, not a perpetrator of fraud. Bob

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-08 Thread Bob Higgins
I don't believe Ed Storms and Kiva Labs has SIMS or ICP-MS. I know he as an SEM with EDX capability. Actually, MFMP is looking to catalog organizations and individuals who have access to various means of testing who might be willing to look at the materials we make. I know that Ed is willing to

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-08 Thread Bob Cook
Higgins comments are right on. MFMP should do mass spec analysis of the Ni particles to determine isotopic concentration in the Parkhomov test. If the Parkhomov test actually produces a variety of Ni--some reacted and some not reacted--that would be a nice comparison to do. Does anyone

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-08 Thread Alain Sepeda
2015-03-08 16:50 GMT+01:00 Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com: The standard of extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof is a phrase that goes back to Marcello Truzzi. It has been debated here on several different occasions. It has been used by skeptics to justify whatever they want.

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-08 Thread Bob Cook
Bob-- I thought you indicated that ICP_MS was assomplisheD--I wish the experimenters had been more specific about which samples were analyzed by TOF-SIMS and ICP-MS. It would have been valuable to have SEM analysis of the actual particles used in the MS studies to understand from where, within

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-08 Thread Lennart Thornros
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: ​ ​Besides the idea of testing the Ni particles, which I cannot comment on due to lack of understanding, the rest of your statement I really like. In particular the sentence below is great.​ ​ ​ The Lugano test was

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-08 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Eric, the standard amongst academic colleagues is extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. The standard is that replication should be done by uninvolved parties. Neither Rossi nor Levi, et all was uninvolved. Levi and friends had their reputation on the line from the claims from the

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-08 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Sun, 8 Mar 2015 14:31:01 -0600: Hi Bob, [snip] IIRC Ed is also an expert in Tritium detection, though I'm not sure whether or not he has the equipment needed at present. You should ask. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-08 Thread Bob Higgins
I was referring to the SIMS and ICP-MS that was done for the Lugano experiment. These tests have not been done for the MFMP ash. We do not have partners for these tests [yet]. On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Bob-- I thought you indicated that ICP_MS

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-08 Thread Eric Walker
Just to be clear, I'm not saying I disagree with the objections to Rossi having handled the charge. In general one has the impression scientists are pretty collegial with one another. They place a lot of trust in one another. One scientist will say to another, I'd like to take a second look at

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Levi et al. Lugano experiment

2015-03-08 Thread Bob Higgins
Some features of the Lugano HotCat ash can now be identified based on the follow-on work of MFMP and Parkhomov. When trying to decide whether the Lugano team actually sampled the important part of the HotCat ash, have a look at the TPR2 - Apendix 3 - Figure 2, the SEM photo of Particle 1. This

[Vo]:essential criteria for LENR+

2015-03-08 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Friends, I have just published: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/03/smart-criteria-for-lenr.html Actually I am speaking about criteria for problem solving and faster development- but many people,bad and good wish these should be criteria for survival and should fail- *à la guerre