Re: [Vo]:Jiang reports successful Lugano replication

2015-05-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Can someone please describe how they are measuring output power? Where is the evidence of gain? It is basically a temperature comparison, which is not the best method, but the temperature difference is large. Look at the full sized slides here:

RE: [Vo]:Jiang reports successful Lugano replication

2015-05-30 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jed Rothwell Can someone please describe how they are measuring output power? Where is the evidence of gain? * It is basically a temperature comparison, which is not the best method, but the temperature difference is large. “Not the best method”? Without proper calibration, this

Re: [Vo]:Jiang reports successful Lugano replication

2015-05-30 Thread Bob Higgins
Type B thermocouples are expensive; even for fine wire, short, uninsulated couples, because they are made from platinum. They may be 10x more expensive than type-K and extension wires are just as expensive. Additionally the signal level is smaller with type-B which means more noise in the

Re: [Vo]:a turning point in the history of Parkhomov replications

2015-05-30 Thread Alain Sepeda
I was starting to understand what is the moon when they pulled the ladder... 2015-05-30 18:07 GMT+02:00 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com: Dear Alain, I have already noticed your creative metaphor. I was already here downstairs at the Sputnik Event. Peter On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 6:43 PM,

Re: [Vo]:MFMP in replication battle/siege again!

2015-05-30 Thread Alberto De Souza
Fran, On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 6:17 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roarty@lmco .com wrote: Alberto, the series current is constant thru both but the loaded reactor heating coil becomes shunted by the plasma environment . E^2/R is going to be different and the power distribution will be

Re: [Vo]:Jiang reports successful Lugano replication

2015-05-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote: Beats me why they don't use type S or type B thermocouples that are common in the glass industry. That probably would be better. You should suggest it to Jiang. (His e-mail in the slides. He is a good guy.) The K-type thermocouple maxed out. They

Re: [Vo]:a turning point in the history of Parkhomov replications

2015-05-30 Thread Craig Haynie
The MFMP data is really compelling. As the temperature rises; as the internal pressure drops, the difference between the fueled cell and the control gets wider. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/15ODbN9Oq6Pjyp9A61hdX0-fBJIXBBKMk7Ei06PzTc-Q/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1291075296 Craig On Sat,

Re: [Vo]:Jiang reports successful Lugano replication

2015-05-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: There is a successful reproduction of a test yesterday by MFMP. Here are spreadsheets showing the MFMP results from May 28, 2015: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15ODbN9Oq6Pjyp9A61hdX0-fBJIXBBKMk7Ei06PzTc-Q/htmlview?sle=true#

Re: [Vo]:Jiang reports successful Lugano replication

2015-05-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Oops. I should have said: Evidence for excess heat is found because T2 is much hotter than T1. *T1 is touching the resistance heater*, which should be the hottest place in the system. Heat escapes by various paths, but no matter how complicated those paths are, I am pretty sure that with no

Re: [Vo]:Jiang reports successful Lugano replication

2015-05-30 Thread Robert Lynn
I skimmed through it, one thing that struck me was that they hit 1372°C for 10 minutes. I have serious doubts that their stainless steel vessel could have survived such a temperature (barely bellow melting) - which makes me suspicious of an error somewhere, this is above where k-type

Re: [Vo]:Jiang reports successful Lugano replication

2015-05-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Ø JR: 405 deg C is a huge difference. Yes, but it is proof of nothing other than an inverted temperature profile. Assuming the temperature difference is real, and not an instrument artifact, it is proof that a great deal of heat originated from

Re: [Vo]:MFMP in replication battle/siege again!

2015-05-30 Thread Alberto De Souza
MFMP is performing a very interesting live experiment now. The first that I know of in LENR that test for excess heat with a null hypothesis: they are running a loaded reactor in series with a empty reactor and the loaded reactor is tens of degrees Celsius hotter than the empty one (very good

[Vo]:Jiang reports successful Lugano replication

2015-05-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: “New Result of Anomalous Heat Production in Hydrogen-loaded Metals at High Temperature” New Report by Songsheng Jiang of the China Institute of Atomic Energy (CIAE)

Re: [Vo]:Jiang reports successful Lugano replication

2015-05-30 Thread Daniel Rocha
There is a successful reproduction of a test yesterday by MFMP.

Re: [Vo]:Jiang reports successful Lugano replication

2015-05-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
The slides are here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/267085905/New-Result-on-Anomalous-Heat-Production-in-Hydrogen-loaded Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: There is a successful reproduction of a test yesterday by MFMP. Yes. Jiang's test was on May 4 at the China Institute of Atomic

Re: [Vo]:MFMP in replication battle/siege again!

2015-05-30 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Alberto, the series current is constant thru both but the loaded reactor heating coil becomes shunted by the plasma environment . E^2/R is going to be different and the power distribution will be different – I am sure they are aware of this and they may be on to something but I have to disagree

RE: [Vo]:Jiang reports successful Lugano replication

2015-05-30 Thread Jones Beene
Can someone please describe how they are measuring output power? Where is the evidence of gain? Did they leave out some of the text? From: Jed Rothwell The slides are here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/267085905/New-Result-on-Anomalous-Heat-Production-in-Hydrogen-loaded

[Vo]:a turning point in the history of Parkhomov replications

2015-05-30 Thread Peter Gluck
Or two turning points, both in the good direction? See: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/05/good-news-from-china-and-very-hopefully.html I know positive events/changes must come. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

RE: [Vo]:Jiang reports successful Lugano replication

2015-05-30 Thread a.ashfield
Beats me why they don't use type S or type B thermocouples that are common in the glass industry.

Re: [Vo]:a turning point in the history of Parkhomov replications

2015-05-30 Thread Alain Sepeda
Chinese Sputnik says bip bip bip 2015-05-30 16:17 GMT+02:00 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com: Or two turning points, both in the good direction? See: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/05/good-news-from-china-and-very-hopefully.html I know positive events/changes must come. Peter --

Re: [Vo]:a turning point in the history of Parkhomov replications

2015-05-30 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Alain, I have already noticed your creative metaphor. I was already here downstairs at the Sputnik Event. Peter On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 6:43 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: Chinese Sputnik says bip bip bip 2015-05-30 16:17 GMT+02:00 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com: