Re: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

In reply to Craig Haynie's message of Sun, 13 Mar 2016 21:08:43 -0400: Hi, [snip] Note the use of the word "acceleration". Acceleration produces a force. Force times distance = energy. >This doesn't make any sense: > >"For a given acceleration period, the higher the mean velocity, the

Re: [Vo]:NY Times, "How Saudi Arabia Turned Its Greatest Weapon on Itself"

Axil, Don't be such a pessimist. 1 - 2 decades is plenty to get LENT in vehicles. I could even be less is the E-Cat X really can produce the majority of its output as electricity.

Re: [Vo]:NY Times, "How Saudi Arabia Turned Its Greatest Weapon on Itself"

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-economy-employment-idUSKCN0W205X China expects to lay off 1.8 million workers in coal, steel sectors On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Axil Axil wrote: > > >> That opinion is an

Re: [Vo]:NY Times, "How Saudi Arabia Turned Its Greatest Weapon on Itself"

Axil Axil wrote: > That opinion is an overreaction. It will take 20 to 30 years before any > fraction of transportation is converted over to LENR. > The time it takes to convert is not so important. An economist friend of mine explained to me that markets respond to likely

Re: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

This doesn't make any sense: "For a given acceleration period, the higher the mean velocity, the longer the distance travelled, hence the higher the energy lost by the engine." Since we're not talking about relativistic speeds, then the idea that a device will consume more energy, over a

Re: [Vo]:NY Times, "How Saudi Arabia Turned Its Greatest Weapon on Itself"

On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > That opinion is an overreaction. It will take 20 to 30 years before any > fraction of transportation is converted over to LENR. > It would take a lot less than that in wartime. > On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:56 PM,

Re: [Vo]:NY Times, "How Saudi Arabia Turned Its Greatest Weapon on Itself"

That opinion is an overreaction. It will take 20 to 30 years before any fraction of transportation is converted over to LENR. On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:56 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > This article describes the troubles that oil-producing nations are > experiencing. These

[Vo]:NY Times, "How Saudi Arabia Turned Its Greatest Weapon on Itself"

This article describes the troubles that oil-producing nations are experiencing. These problems be far worse if it becomes generally known that cold fusion is real. That knowledge alone will reduce the price of oil. If cold fusion succeeds these nations will all be bankrupt. - Jed

[Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

If SPP’s are present at the location where muons are produced, their large magnetic field may be sufficient to sap a good deal of energy and effectively capture the muon in a helical death spiral, producing more electrons and photons on the way to the center of the SPP. The time constant for

[Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

Dave-- I agree with your comment—note I suggested it SEEMS to happen. The real issue is what happens in a coherent system. Can a nano particle convert spin—angular momentum--- to linear momentum? Bob Cook From: David Roberson Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 10:49 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com

Re: [Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

See https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/2862-A-Simple-LENR-Magnetic-Radiation-Shield/ and my posts in https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/1853-Ask-questions-to-Dr-Sveinn-%C3%93lafsson-Science-Institute-University-of-Iceland/ On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Bob

[Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

Axil-- I am interested in the ideas you have put forth below. It would be nice if you were to add some references to the documents you have that substantiate the various ideas. For example I am not familiar with the notion of a magnetic beam. Magnetic fields are the classical notion of

Re: [Vo]: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

Something is getting out of the LENR reactor. The mouse is stimulating the cat in Rossi's reactor clustering scheme. The some emission of the mouse is producing the LENR reaction inside the Cat type reactor. That emission only exits the Mouse when the power to the heater coils of the Mouse is

Re: [Vo]: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

Muons with less than about 4MeV are not going to escape the reactor. Cosmic muons are average 2GeV. No magnetic field that I could generate is going to significantly deflect either of these. On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > @Bob > > Use a magnetic shield

Re: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

Shawyer's theory explicitly repect CoE, and it explains that acceleration consume energy, through dopler effect and decalibration of the cavity... http://emdrive.com/faq.html "*6.* *Q.* *Is the EmDrive a form of perpetual motion machine?* *A. *The EmDrive obeys the law of conservation of energy

Re: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

Flat Earth and the Gyroscope Myth   https://youtu.be/deoLBQTtXJw  Published on Dec 19, 2015 Good synopsis of Foucaults pendulum. This guy actually measured the speed of light back in 1864. (12 min into video for Forcault info.) This guys you tube video appears to dispute the earlier

Re: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

Bob, if you take the kid and merry-go-round as a system in free space it can be shown that both linear and angular momentum are conserved. The interaction with the Earth makes it less clear. Dave -Original Message- From: Bob Cook To: vortex-l

Re: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

“And it is this direct implication that Shayer et al have not yet answered to, so far as I'm aware. The conversion of input energy to acceleration would remain constant, at any velocity. If 1 m/s/kg costs a whopping kJ, it'll ALWAYS cost 1kJ, whether from 0 - 1 m/s or from 999 m/s to 1

Re: [Vo]: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

@Bob Use a magnetic shield to divert muons and other charged particles. I describe it here https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/2862-A-Simple-LENR-Magnetic-Radiation-Shield/?postID=15183#post15183 [image: Inline image 1] On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Bob Higgins

RE: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

“And it is this direct implication that Shayer et al have not yet answered to, so far as I'm aware. The conversion of input energy to acceleration would remain constant, at any velocity. If 1 m/s/kg costs a whopping kJ, it'll ALWAYS cost 1kJ, whether from 0 - 1 m/s or from 999 m/s to 1 km/s,

[Vo]:350 days test: the ERV's report is interesting, however the Accountant's balanceis decisive

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/03/mar-13-2016-lenrervs-report-is.html My offer for a Solomonian Solution is here, the ERV can work in peace, and we weill not die prematurely due to curiosity. Who can help? I am planning to read the Accountant's Balance tomorrow evening. Thanks in advance!

Re: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

@Jones - i have no doubt the efficacy of the principle can be tested in the lab - i'm not talking about an ability to detect thrust. I use the qualifier "effective" N3 violation in reference to a system in which mechanical (classical) momentum is not conserved - quantum or relativistic effects

Re: [Vo]:EM Drive(s)

One advantage the EMDrive has over LENR, is that it's fairly replicable. The amateurs can do it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rbf7735o3hQ Craig

RE: [Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

As mentioned to Bob the muons are not slow – they are fast in Holmlid’s theory. However, this should be confirmed by him, as I am also basing some of my understanding on Stubbs, along with all of Holmlid’s papers, which have evolved over the years. If we follow the Stubbs model of nine

RE: [Vo]: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

From: Bob Higgins Ø Muonic decay in the reactor is an interesting prospect that I would like to read more about. However, I don't think the muons, electrons, or protons are going to escape the reactor in any large number due to the mass/cm^2 they would have to traverse to get out. Muons

[Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

I agree with Higgins-- “The penetration is directly related to the energy of the muon.” If the muons that are produced in the reactor are slow muons they may not get out in any case before decaying. All they do is act to catalyze other nuclear reactions before decay. Bob Cook From: Bob

[Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

It may be that the intrinsic spin (and angular momentum) of a particle is converted preferentially to a particle with linear momentum in the direction of a magnetic field. In this case there would be no apparent conservation of linear momentum. This seems to happen in macroscopic systems—a

Re: [Vo]: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

Muonic decay in the reactor is an interesting prospect that I would like to read more about. However, I don't think the muons, electrons, or protons are going to escape the reactor in any large number due to the mass/cm^2 they would have to traverse to get out. Muons are no more likely to

RE: [Vo]:EM Drive(s)

From: Vibrator ! Ø So an EM drive in a lab cannot show an energy asymmetry because it can't accelerate anywhere. That does not add up logically or scientifically… Despite conflicting claims, no one has yet “busted” all of the positive results, which are probably about “chirality”

Re: [Vo]:EM Drive(s)

There were one or two replication attempts on the NASA forums following the most recent positive, albeit inconclusive, results. But unfortunately it suffers from a similar problem as LENR in that few folks have the cahoneys or resources to play with live magnetrons. This is lab science, not