Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR

2018-05-23 Thread Nigel Dyer
Bob As far as I understand the details, the sea-quarks are a not unreasonable explanation for the probe data. Interestingly, the Stubbs alternative proposal removes sea-quarks but then effectively introduces sea-electrons as the main constituent of muons.  The Stubbs model would need to be

Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR

2018-05-23 Thread mixent
In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Wed, 23 May 2018 05:47:32 +: Hi Bob, [snip] That's fine. It also works with any other sub-particles that have charge, regardless of what they are called, or how big they are. BTW I wrote here below that it would account for all mass changes

Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR

2018-05-23 Thread Axil Axil
electron scattering experiments which polarized the electrons in terms of this helicity, either right handed or left handed helicity shows that the quarks inside the nucleons have spin that are chiral. The quarks are entities that conform to conservation laws and physical constants that apply to

RE: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR

2018-05-23 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Nygel-- How do you reconcile the Stubbs evaluation of real probe data? Bob From: Nigel Dyer Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:10:57 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR Bob Up until a year or so

Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR

2018-05-23 Thread H LV
Thoughts undoubtedly exist. The existence of anything else can be doubted. At least no one has shown otherwise. harry On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Nigel Dyer wrote: > Bob > > Up until a year or so ago I might have gone along with the idea that > quarks do not exist.

RE: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR

2018-05-23 Thread JonesBeene
Without getting too Clintonesque, the resolution to any disagreement here most likely depends on the meaning of “exist”… (or what is ‘is’)... If the lifetime is sufficiently short, then either stance is viable. A ‘meme’ exists for quarks, which if nothing else, guarantees (almost) eternal

Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR

2018-05-23 Thread Nigel Dyer
Bob Up until a year or so ago I might have gone along with the idea that quarks do not exist.  However, my son has produced a nice paper from which the fundamental particles (electrons, neutrinos and quarks) emerge in such a beautiful way that I am now completely convinced that they are

Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR

2018-05-23 Thread Andrew Meulenberg
Dear Robin, I believe that quarks and their constituent parts move rapidly within the nucleus. The parts (I would hold to be leptons) are definitely highly relativistic. If they slow down in the presence of external fields, then their effective mass would definitely decrease. I also agree with