H LV wrote:
We don't really know how steam engines would have evolved because they were
> out-competed by diesel engines.
>
As I recall, the last attempts to compete with Diesel engines was with
steam turbines. This source says the Union Pacific actually made two steam
turbine locomotives, and
I wrote:
You might not think so, looking at the primary energy of gasoline. The
> thing is, electric cars use 4 to 5 times less energy than gasoline cars. So
> imagine using 80% less gasoline. Look at these primary energy sources to
> get a feel for it. Converting to electric cars would eliminate
MSF wrote:
> I'm all for electric cars, except those aspects of them that are
> controlled by entities other than the driver.
>
I believe you mean self-driving cars, or partially self-driving cars such
as the Tesla. The self-driving feature has nothing to do with the car being
electric. A Leaf
I'm all for electric cars, except those aspects of them that are controlled by
entities other than the driver. As has been demonstrated more than once, even
gasoline powered cars of recent manufacture are connected to the internet and
can be disabled or modified remotely. I have disconnected
Thanks.
So it was a "gag".
Harry
On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 12:58 PM MSF wrote:
>
> I take it I'm the only Vort with first-hand experience with these old
> beasts. My grandfather was a brakeman on the Union Pacific railroad when I
> was a little boy. Back then, while all the passenger trains were
>
The changing dreamscape.
We don't really know how steam engines would have evolved because they were
out-competed by diesel engines.
The steam engine really became obsolete because it was incapable of turning
*particular* dreams into reality.
Harry
On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 9:08 PM William
I take it I'm the only Vort with first-hand experience with these old beasts.
My grandfather was a brakeman on the Union Pacific railroad when I was a little
boy. Back then, while all the passenger trains were diesel-electric, a lot of
the freight haulers were still steam. Old Gramps would take
We only need to phase out the use of *gasoline* and other fuels derived
from oil.
The ICE itself is not obsolete technology.
harry
On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 10:41 AM Jed Rothwell wrote:
> This guy makes some valid points, but there is a lot of misinformation and
> mistakes about history in what
I think by bans he meant total bans, rather than local or incremental
prohibitions.
I don't know if over night charging solves the problem.
harry
On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 10:41 AM Jed Rothwell wrote:
> This guy makes some valid points, but there is a lot of misinformation and
> mistakes about
This guy makes some valid points, but there is a lot of misinformation and
mistakes about history in what he says. Two points in particular:
Electric cars will not be a burden on the power grid if most of them are
charged overnight. They will cause the power grid to consume more natural
gas, but
from sept 2020
Michael Shellenberger opposes California's gas car phase out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHZ4atMERWE
Harry
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