Re: [Vo]:Beiting paper at ICCF-21

Richard Garwin of the Jasons was brought in to evaluate the experiment. He said there is a problem because it uses K-type thermocouples which are susceptible to errors from exposure to hydrogen. Beiting pointed out three problems with this hypothesis: 1. The thermocouples were shielded. 2.

Re: [Vo]:Beiting paper at ICCF-21

Overall, I would say the people selected to give oral presentations have upped their game. The quality is better than most previous conferences. Several other experimental papers impressed me. I will list them below. Here are all the abstracts:

[Vo]:Beiting paper at ICCF-21

the full report listed at the end of the abstract. I hope I can upload the full report to LENR-CANR.org soon. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Plastic bags

e. The only problem the regulators had were with small companies and mom & pop businesses. I described the reduced pollution in Japan here, on p. 126: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJcoldfusiona.pdf - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Plastic bags

the plastic in a factory and burn it or recycle it some other way. There are recycling bins for plastic grocery bags. I suspect this is not economical but it is better than scattering the bags around the landscape. They cause great harm to wildlife. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR

but I see what you mean. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR

Russ wrote: Might you point to a reference where the mass of neutrons in deuterium vs. > other nuclides is said to be different. > I do not understand. Is the claim here that a neutron in deuterium is heavier or lighter than a neutron in some other element? There are

Re: [Vo]:REVISED Letters from Fleischmann to Miles

in any paper, no matter how long it has been uploaded. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:fueled vs. unfueled LENR systems

t made him angry. It would have made me embarrassed, and I would have retracted my claims. I cannot why Axil thinks there might be "unfueled systems" or what he thinks they might be. As far as I know, he is the only person who believes they exist. - Jed

[Vo]:REVISED Letters from Fleischmann to Miles

cially the memo on p. 158. It is depressing. I added a funny comment by Fleischmann to the introduction: "P.P.P.P.P.P.S. You may think that I am a very suspicious person. Of course, this is absolutely correct." (1999-11-19) - Jed

Re: [Vo]:fueled vs. unfueled LENR systems

t rather the elevated temperature caused by high current density. - Jed

[Vo]:Discussion of colonizing Mars

, but I think it deserves more funding. - Jed

[Vo]:Researcher John Fisher dies

Bill Collis reported that Dr John Fisher died on May 3, 2018, at age of 98. He worked with the late Richard Oriani. You will find some of papers at LENR-CANR.org. It is sad, but he was remarkably healthy and he seemed fully with it a few years ago, when I last saw him. We should all be so lucky!

[Vo]:Fleischmann thought that cold fusion might be used as a weapon

ch the same as the previous ones. So, you can read all about this now, in the two papers I linked to above. - Jed

[Vo]:UK went for a day without coal fired electricity for the first time since 1880s

rned off in 2010: http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/02/08/loran.navigation.shutdown/index.html I wonder when the last vacuum tube computer was unplugged? There might still be one running somewhere! See: https://www.pcworld.com/article/249951/computers/if-it-aint-broke-dont-fix-it-ancient-computers-in-use-today.html - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Still campaigning for cold fusion

2F020w81 For Google Alerts, I use a search term that filters out references to the program: cold fusion -coldfusion -"web hosting" This seldom brings me anything about the program. - Jed

[Vo]:Still campaigning for cold fusion

lenr-canr.org/acrobat/SchwingerJcoldfusiona.pdf It is a tragedy. - Jed

[Vo]:Article about cold fusion in The Pioneer

See: http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/cold-fusion-to-power-households.html The author says a follow up article is coming soon. (The Pioneer is an English language newspaper in India.)

Re: [Vo]:Nikkei report on cold fusion

The figure is nothing to get excited about. - Jed Cold fusion: overturning the conclusion that it was “fake” After 30 years, a series of confirmations Jan. 14, 2018 Nikkei Shimbun morning edition In “cold nuclear fusion,” hydrogen atoms generate a nuclear fusion reaction at room temperature

Re: [Vo]:Nikkei report on cold fusion

Paragraph 4 is supposed to say: Professor Emeritus Yoshiaki *Arata* of Osaka University. As I expect everyone here knows. Sorry about that. - Jed

[Vo]:Nikkei report on cold fusion

Here is a translation of a Nikkei Shimbun article by me and Mr. Google. The original Japanese text is below. I have not translated the figure. I may do that on Wednesday. Cold fusion: overturning the conclusion that it was “fake” After 30 years, a series of confirmations Jan. 14, 2018 Nikkei

Re: [Vo]:LENR fission

e who rejects data is not doing science. You have to accept what the experiments show. - Jed >

Re: [Vo]:LENR fission

uch as Fleischmann, Storms and Miles. (They are the ones who say this, not me. Or not just me.) - Jed

Re: [Vo]:LENR fission

d fusion follows. I do not know if a thermal pulse will improve the ratio. Except in the obvious case in which a thermal pulse produces heat after death, which is to say, a COP of infinity. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:LENR fission

ack > mechanism in LENR which can increase COP” stands… > No, widely replicated experimental evidence shows that is not the case. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:LENR fission

a heat pulse. - Jed

[Vo]:Nikkei article about cold fusion

he article is behind a paywall. If someone has a subscription and will send me a copy, I will translate it. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:New SRI report on Brillouin reactor

Press release: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180313005600/en/SRI-Report-Independently-Verifies-Brillouin-LENR-Reactions

[Vo]:New SRI report on Brillouin reactor

ists "Qreaction/Watts" ranging from 3 to 5 W, and a "COP" of ~1.6. On p.13, "Qreaction" is defined as output minus input, so in the best case that is 5 W excess power at that ratio: i.e., 8.3 W in, 13.3 out. With a good calorimeter they should have no difficulty measuring that. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Uploaded Mengoli Ni-H paper

ause it does not hold much gas. > Jean-Paul Biberian told me this is sintered nickel with small crystals. He has seen this kind of material load up to 50% with gas loading. So it holds a lot more hydrogen than I realized. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Uploaded Mengoli Ni-H paper

JonesBeene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: > This is a surprisingly thorough and fair paper but it is twenty years old. > It begs to be updated. > I believe the authors stopped working on this long ago. There is nothing for them to update. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Uploaded Mengoli Ni-H paper

; as the authors say. Look carefully at Fig. 9, p. 17 to see what the authors mean. - Jed

[Vo]:Papers not uploaded to LENR-CANR.org

text better than they used to. So, if you would like to see a paper uploaded, let me know. Especially if you are volunteering to help proofread the paper before I upload it. - Jed

[Vo]:Atlanta water woes

and so on: https://www.ajc.com/news/traffic/just-water-main-break-shuts-down-buford-highway-dekalb-county/cefcx91zPPjthLAb31zQjI/ This is the problem with gigantic, centralized infrastructure. Especially when it gets old, it becomes fragile and subject to catastrophic failure. - Jed

[Vo]:Uploaded Mengoli Ni-H paper

about this work, but I will refrain from discussing it for now, and let the readers decide. - Jed

[Vo]:D2SO4 tritium experiment

I uploaded a paper about D2SO4 cold fusion experiments. See: Will, F.G., K. Cedzynska, and D.C. Linton, *Reproducible tritium generation in electrochemical cells employing palladium cathodes with high deuterium loading*. J. Electroanal. Chem., 1993. *360*: p. 161

Re: [Vo]:

lls_Dam Obviously, the turbines have been replaced, but most of the capital cost was for the dam, and it was paid off a long time ago! - Jed

Re: [Vo]:

ou can't even deliver a printed newspaper to each house for that kind of money, which is why they will not be delivering newspapers much longer. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:

elivered to my house by an ancient truck from the dairy company. There are modern versions of such services that can be scaled down, such as electronic newspapers or Instacart for groceries. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Amazing and overlooked: the big picture of Grid Energy in the USA

e that business scales down and it is profitable even at a few dollars per year. It does not require Amazon to install something like a hardware meter at your house. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Amazing and overlooked: the big picture of Grid Energy in the USA

nufacturing/reports/2014/enduse_intensity/?src=%E2%80%B9%20Consumption%20%20%20%20%20%20Manufacturing%20Energy%20Consumption%20Survey%20(MECS)-b1 The EIA web site is the Cat's Pajamas for energy geeks. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Amazing and overlooked: the big picture of Grid Energy in the USA

ere has been a relative decline in manufacturing compared to other countries, especially China, but in absolute terms there has been no decline. There was after 2008, but it recovered. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Amazing and overlooked: the big picture of Grid Energy in the USA

housand manufacturing corporations protested. "Trump's plan for Energy Star sparks industry uproar" http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/374940-trumps-plan-for-energy-star-sparks-industry-uproar - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Amazing and overlooked: the big picture of Grid Energy in the USA

echart=pin=s=0=0= ("United States: all fuels (utility-scale)" blue line goes below -250,000) - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Uploaded Letters from Martin Fleischmann to Melvin Miles

If you find errors in this document, please let me know. - Jed

[Vo]:Uploaded Letters from Martin Fleischmann to Melvin Miles

. Outspoken statements. Even a few *sensational* statements. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion research reported at Oak Ridge

elp from Howard Hughes. I read that by the time they recovered it, the technology was long obsolete and they learned nothing of importance. That was in the book "Blind Man's Bluff" as I recall. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion research reported at Oak Ridge

cies, news articles and the like, that has been because people were embarrassed by the topic, or because the top brass was infuriated by it. That happened in some Navy research labs. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Eastern coal mining is becoming MORE dangerous

CB Sites <cbsit...@gmail.com> wrote: Your preaching to the chorus Jed. For every ton of Coal put through the > process of combustion, 2 tons of CO2 are produced. . . . > Yes. But this article describes a new aspect of the problem. Something I had not heard of. As I said, mining

[Vo]:Eastern coal mining is becoming MORE dangerous

Here is something I did not know. The accident rate in mines has continued to decline, but this article says that more eastern miners are coming down with black lung disease these days, because there is less coal and it is more difficult to extract.

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion research reported at Oak Ridge

Ah ha again. The reference to cold fusion has been removed from the article. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion research reported at Oak Ridge

eaction." That's LENR, another name for you-know-what. It seems unlikely to me the reporter came up with that on his own. Someone probably told him "we call this a low-temperature nuclear reaction." And *that* can only mean cold fusion. The mystery deepens. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion research reported at Oak Ridge

JonesBeene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: > Rusi Taleyarkhan was working at ORNL some years ago – therefore - they are > probably referring to sonofusion > Possibly, but it is present tense. The lab "is trying." There was some other research there long ago. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion research reported at Oak Ridge

I asked the Forbes author about this. - Jed

[Vo]:Cold fusion research reported at Oak Ridge

ion,” or a low-temperature nuclear > reaction. That's all it says. I expect this is a misunderstanding. I doubt there is any cold fusion research. I have not heard of this from any other source. - Jed

[Vo]:Request assistance proofreading Fleischmann letters

added to the text by Melvin Miles and Michael McKubre Abstract Correspondence between Martin Fleischmann and Melvin Miles, from 1992 to 2005. Some additional letters and faxes from Stanley Pons, Jed Rothwell and others. These letters were preserved on paper. Many are faxes, meaning

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

David L. Babcock <olb...@gmail.com> wrote: Yes. Small but convincing. > What does the graph convince you of? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

Did the graph show up? Can people here see it? This discussion group software is a little out of date. A little, as in . . . 20 years? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

Alain Sepeda wrote: by the way, any news on you video pitch? popular? > 87,636 lifetime views. Let's see if I can attach the graph. [image: Inline image 1]

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

The Google Trend for "cold fusion Rossi" has plunged. Thank goodness. See: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=cold%20fusion%20rossi=all

Re: [Vo]:Miles and Flieschmann paper on calorimetry uploaded

I improved Appendix A, per suggestions from Mel: APPENDIX A. [kR′] HEAT TRANSFER COEFFICIENT FORMAT Added by Jed Rothwell in 2018 Fleischmann used the designation [kR′] where R is the radiative heat transfer coefficient, with 2 or 3 subscripts: [kR′] *i, j, l*. The subscripts mean: *i* Method

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

Alain Sepeda <alain.sep...@gmail.com> wrote: Jed, Don't despair ;-) > I am not the despairing type. I strongly believe in facing facts, even distressing ones. *Especially* distressing one. - Jed

[Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

See LENR-CANR.org Total Downloads and the Google Trends graph over time from 2004 to the present: http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1213

[Vo]:Miles and Flieschmann paper on calorimetry uploaded

(La Spezia), Italy: Italian Physical Society, Bologna, Italy. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MilesMcasestudie.pdf This has two new appendices explaining some of the mysteries of Fleischmann's calorimetry. - Jed

[Vo]:Lattice Energy LLC slides, Jan 27, 2018

Lattice Energy LLC - Japanese NEDO LENR project reported good progress in excess heat production and device fabrication - Jan 27 2018 Lewis Larson's presentation:

Re: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

H LV <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote: I mean what was the concentration of He-4 in the vessel before the start of > the experiment? > Let me recommend you read the reviews and then the original sources by Miles for that info. - Jed

[Vo]:France shutting down last coal and oil generators by 2021

/browser/index.php?tbl=T01.03#/?f=A=1949=2016=1-2-3-5-12 You can change the display data categories, range of dates, and type of graph here to show all kinds of nifty stuff. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

I wrote: 3. The background He-4 was ~ 5pm >> > > Yes. That is actually a strength. It is so low that anything like a leak > would be far above the amounts Miles measured. > > > >> 4. The measured He-4 was only 5 ppB ! >> > > As I said, a leak would be hundreds of times higher. > A leak would

Re: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

ery far from bullet proof. > I think it is more bulletproof than you realize. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

: "Professor, you just answered your own question. All you need to do is glide to within a few feet above the ground and then do what you just described. You fall a dead mass the last few feet, and then roll to a stop." Most of the objections to cold fusion are similar. They are asked and answered. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

Adrian Ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net> wrote: Jed, I find your comment rather ironic considering your dismissal of > everything that Rossi has done. You imply that I must accept all new claims without question. That would be as irrational as rejecting all of them out of hand.

[Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

t;doctors never make mistakes" or "bank computer programmers never make mistakes" or "airplane mechanics never make mistakes." - Jed

[Vo]:Fleischmann - Morrison debate document revised

September 21, 1993 included the earlier draft. So, I attached this earlier draft to the end of this document. - Jed

Re: [Vo]: Fast breeder thorium reactor

<mix...@bigpond.com> wrote: > BTW, I'm surprised you didn't mention the possibility of using LENR to > remediate > the waste. ;) > There have been some reports of that, as I expect readers here know. But I do not put much stock in them. - Jed

Re: [Vo]: Fast breeder thorium reactor

did circa 1000 AD. They know where their ancestors put things, and why they put them there. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi dog & pony show with full audio

in Franklin, Report of Dr. Benjamin Franklin, and Other Commissioners, Charged by the King of France, with the Examination of the Animal Magnetism, as Now Practiced in Paris (1784) - Jed

[Vo]:Rossi dog & pony show with full audio

/watch?v=yzHq1Ssi0r8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSJsuJOk1DA - Jed

Re: [Vo]:J. Condensed Matter Nuclear Science Vol. 25 uploaded

The correct title for the Tsirlin paper is: Tsirlin, M., *Concerning the Problem of Searching for the Optimal Palladium Cathode*. J. Condensed Matter Nucl. Sci., 2017. *25*: p. 56-67

Re: [Vo]:Ross E-Cat QX demo Nove 24

olish venture capitalists such as the people who wasted $120 million Juicero: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/01/juicero-silicon-valley-shutting-down - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Ross E-Cat QX demo Nove 24

Video of demonstration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkj-7whwpUk

Re: [Vo]:J. Condensed Matter Nuclear Science Vol. 25 uploaded

Apparently the Tsirlin paper has the wrong title! Hey, it wasn't my mistake. I will post a note here when it is corrected. - Jed

[Vo]:J. Condensed Matter Nuclear Science Vol. 25 uploaded

See: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BiberianJPjcondensedx.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Another opportunity for Rossi to disappoint

JonesBeene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: *From: *Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> > > > >- Both Patterson and Mizuno reported heat from a mixture of Ni and Pd, >which I assume can be ascribed to the Pd. > > > > Why would you assume that Mizuno

Re: [Vo]:Another opportunity for Rossi to disappoint

I have doubts about many of the people on this list, and others I do not recall reported heat from Ni-H. Both Patterson and Mizuno reported heat from a mixture of Ni and Pd, which I assume can be ascribed to the Pd. Mills and Piantelli are obviously positive, and I take them seriously. Y = Yes,

[Vo]:Time travel with Google books

life-time." He was right. We have never recovered, and perhaps we never will. I doubt that mankind will ever be so blithely optimistic again, or so willing to trust in science, technology and progress. Perhaps that is a good thing. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Krivit 1 ITER 0

try to inform the public what they are up to? If you want the real details I expect ITER has published a ton of technical documents. I doubt they include vague assertions about "net energy." If you want to know about neural nets Google has published marvelous papers, in *Nature*, no less. Such as: https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/alphago/AlphaGoNaturePaper.pdf - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Krivit 1 ITER 0

g, as I said. And demonstrated, since I myself was confused. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Krivit 1 ITER 0

energy added to the plasma itself. By that definition, all fusion reactions with atoms lighter than iron always produce net energy. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Self-driving shuttle crashes in Las Vegas hours after launch

t particular error again. There is no doubt self-driving cars will make errors at first, including fatal errors. Engineers will learn from these errors, improve performance, and the cars will make fewer errors. Even at this stage, they make fewer errors than human drivers. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Fw: New Energy Times News Headlines

ce of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction* . . ." - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Article on approaches to energy storage

s to have hundreds or even thousands of times more capacity than that to hold a significant amount of energy. The water pressure is low. The reservoir is not far below sea level. It is not like a dam with water falling hundreds of feet. Typical pumped storage lakes are 30 to 50 million cubic meters. - Jed

[Vo]:My response to the demise of Coolescence

around 1920 it became impossible for anyone to master an airplane without training. You could no longer recapitulate the skills on your own, starting from scratch. The process resembles the emergence of complexity in biological evolution. No species emerges *de novo*. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Article on approaches to energy storage

rocks and sand, not anything that can pop up. You could build a similar structure next to a large lake (such as one of the Great Lakes) or the Hudson River. It would be large hole that extends well below the surface of the lake or river, located perhaps a kilometer away from the lake. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Article on approaches to energy storage

t building a large hole in the ocean for pumped energy storage. Seriously. See: https://www.kcet.org/redefine/belgium-may-build-hole-in-the-ocean-to-store-energy - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Tidal power

The potential energy from tides, waves and the Gulf Stream is immense. People have known that for a long time. There have been many attempts to tap these sources. They have failed because the ocean environment is so challenging. Ships and boats require constant maintenance. My father, who grew up

[Vo]:AI improvements offer a lesson to cold fusion

The other day I posted the message below, describing recent progress in AI. An aspect of this may be instructive to cold fusion researchers. This recent progress has various causes. One of the main ones is a dramatic improvement in the neural network technique. (See

[Vo]:Excellent free compilers for Pascal and C++

Sudoku puzzles. I do not have the patience to solve them by hand. It is fun to watch the computer solve them. I thought I could do it by iterating three procedures but it turns out it takes four. - Jed

[Vo]:Progress in AI

ent on the task." - Jed

[Vo]:ICCF20 proceedings uploaded

. Please contact me if you find errors in formatting or spelling. I am running out of letters for the automatically generated filename: BiberianJPjcondensedw.pdf. Three more to go: x, y and z. After that, Jean-Paul will have to change his name. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

s is being made, and the main reason now is the multi-level neural network. The previous boost was from massive databases. In real world applications the two approaches are blended together, and other techniques are being used. - Jed

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