Hi,
Does anyone know of a SIMS analysis run on either pure deuterium or a metal
deuteride, where *only* the deuteride went in, but some Hydrogen came out?
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,
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in, but some H (1H) came out?
You mean HD goes into the metal and H comes out?
No, I mean D2 goes in and H is detected by SIMS.
[snip]
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Competition (capitalism) provides the motivation,
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van Spaandonk
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Competition (capitalism) provides the motivation,
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H2O, because under plasma
conditions O should readily be released from HOOH, and consequently O++ would
seem more likely to form, and hence Hydrino formation would also be more likely.
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. They reported a
tremor of 2.5 on the Richter scale in the news, but no one mentioned the
meteorite.
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they use high voltage electrical discharges to accomplish this (AFAIK), it
seems to me that their results can adequately be explained by Hydrinos, either
formed in situ as a result of catalysis by O++ /or liberated from Faux D by the
fast particles in the discharge.
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]
If this appeal doesn't work, then you might have more luck purchasing a few LEDs
and sending them free of charge to researchers who you believe might be inclined
to make the necessary measurements.
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of
theoretical physics to build the ultimate radar, which could see
through anything, from buildings to solid earth.
more
..it will even find the WMD you don't have..;)
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Competition (capitalism) provides the motivation,
Cooperation
stars, which then get bumped another few levels
during the next supernova.
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Competition (capitalism) provides the motivation,
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?), which is then absorbed by another
nucleus, releasing more energy than was borrowed to form the neutron.
Personally, I think Hydrinos are a more likely explanation.
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Competition (capitalism) provides the motivation,
Cooperation
.
Now, if we could only get the aliens in the ones that _didn't_ crash to
tell us how they do stuff, that might actually provide a sensible path
forward.
They only crash when we shoot them down.
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Competition (capitalism
the exhaust rearward. To see what a
difference this makes, consider the British Harrier fighter/bombers
(http://www.harrier.org.uk/).
[snip]
BTW, see also http://montalk.net/science/71/coanda-soliton-effect .
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In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Fri, 23 Feb 2007 01:29:58 -0500:
Hi Harry,
[snip]
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:11:03 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Michel Jullian wrote:
The tube doesn't oscillate because the process Robin described
by the action of energetic electrons in the arc.
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,
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Competition (capitalism) provides the motivation,
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a flying saucer shaped lifter, with a circular wire ring on
top as positive electrode, and disk shaped cathode underneath. The advantage of
this is that you get extra lift from the Coander effect. The body should be a
good insulator (styrafoam?).
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Competition (capitalism) provides the motivation,
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, not a statement of policy.
BTW note that my suggestion hereabove might satisfy his wish.
[snip]
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In reply to Robin van Spaandonk's message of Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:08:28 +1100:
Hi,
[snip]
As I understood it at the time, he should Israel should be
^^ said
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Competition (capitalism
lifter
will rise.
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down. IOW both wire and
tube work together, there is no opposing force.
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Competition (capitalism) provides the motivation,
Cooperation (communism) provides the means.
Bush
will have to bomb the Iranian oil fields in order to
achieve an average 2007 price of $80 per barrel.
[snip]
Just threatening to, may be enough.
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Competition (capitalism) provides the motivation,
Cooperation (communism) provides
with energy generation, as Terry points out.
- Jed
[snip]
AFAIK Iran is building several reactors. The big power reactor (approx. 1 GW) is
at Bushehr see (http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/bushehr-intro.htm).
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think it counter-productive to diss them. Branson's wealth is
minor league compared to Gates and Buffet, but it is in the right direction.
Or would you prefer a government grant?
Mike Carrell
-
- Original Message -
From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL
in oil, more energy is derived from
the formation of CO2 than from the formation of water.
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blooded they need it to survive low temperatures.
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isn't in
range so actually it is a lot weaker.
[snip]
I guess it depends on how far apart they are pulled.
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Competition provides the motivation,
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?
[snip]
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:04:27 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
On 2/14/07, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are really only a few forms in which carbon can be sequestered. As
organic
compounds, or as pure carbon, or as carbonates.
I, and the women I
that in their cost estimate.
BTW vehicles could probably be fitted with Ca(OH)2 or CaO based scrubbers in the
exhaust (analogous to catalytic converters). These could be exchanged at gas
stations when filling up.
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Competition provides
and A. It does
not give the correct answer then, metric units of cm
or m must be used for A and d dimensions for the
formula to be valid.
HDN
Tesla Research Group; Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal
Resonances http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/
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is only about 80 W /m^2, however perhaps
by
analogy with Bill's (much) earlier tuned antenna post, the device can appear
larger than it really is when properly tuned, thus allowing it to collect more
than its fair share?
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In reply to Robin van Spaandonk's message of Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:11:58 +1100:
Hi,
[snip]
From memory, the Solar neutrino flux is only about 80 W /m^2, however perhaps
by
Make that a maximum of 40 W /m^2.
[snip]
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Competition
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Tue, 13 Feb 2007 02:24:55 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
required. A cross between NERVA and a jet engine would heat air instead of
Hydrogen. CF would replace the fission power source.
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So
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:49:01 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Somewhat off topic, but see:
http://www.intel.com/research/platform/terascale/teraflops.htm?iid=newstab+supercomputing
I wonder what they charge for it?
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. :(
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
remains
constant, so perhaps one day a means will be found to achieve AG that is highly
efficient.
CF is a
very long way from producing useful net power.
Agreed, however I mention it as a goal to strive for, not as a currently
implementable solution.
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Robin van Spaandonk
http
frequency than the
absorbed energy. Radar is based upon energy reflected at the *same* frequency it
was transmitted at, but Doppler shifted.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
,
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
something like a
NERVA/jet engine cross, where the power is supplied by CF might also
eliminate
hydrocarbon consumption in jets.
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
There something called magneto-hydrodynamic propulsion for submarines.
Is that similiar to this NERVA/jet engine?
Not that I am aware
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:47:23 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/400937/candle_power_who_needs_batteries/
Just out of curiosity, has any list member tried this yet?
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Competition
e.g.
http://www.worldpolicy.org/projects/arms/reports/TiesThatBind.html
[snip]
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
emissions, and increase wealth.
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by an increase in our sun spot activity.
Richard
An increase in Solar radiance may very well be partially to blame, however I
fail to see what that has to do with sun spots. Furthermore sun spots follow an
approximately 11-12 year cycle, and I don't see global warming doing the same.
Regards,
Robin van
, and be gentle in your response. ;)
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effect.
Terry
I suspect that all it implies is some form of resonance, which could just as
easily be magnetic, as long as disturbances in the field involved travel at
light speed.
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Cooperation
effect?
...and what is supporting the top magnet...I think you need to look at the
effect on *all* the forces involved before concluding that there is a net
resultant uni-directional force.
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Competition provides the motivation
the difficulty of measuring this quantity).
Perhaps reliable measurements can only be done in high vacuum?
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Competition provides the motivation,
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is considerably smaller (1.42
Angstrom), hence the increase in density.
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batteries. ;)
Indeed atmospheric ingress can be an important factor, since the material
seems to be a porous ceramic. The size of the pores, and the nature of the gas
filling the pores could well be what determines the max V/m!
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL
constant of the material and the square of breakdown voltage
strength of the material (V/m)^2.
- Original Message -
From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: More on the Bettery
[snip]
The EEStor patent
happen to live in Europe or
Australia).
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]
This is about equal to the cyclotron frequency of the electron where the Earth's
magnetic field is at its strongest.
In short radiation from electrons in the Van Allen belt, near the poles.
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rods which were used on nuclear submarines - thus it is
almost a waste product.
...however Ba135m only has a half-life of 1.2 days, whereas Hf-178m isomere has
a half-life of 31 years.
Consequently there is unlikely to be any significant amount of the Ba isomere
present.
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Robin van
.
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Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:46 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Circuit cries foul
In reply to Stiffler Scientific's message of Sat, 27 Jan 2007
13:27:47 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
hundred
to be conducted through the Earth's field
into the core of the coil, and thence into the windings, especially when the
primary of the core is already being stimulated at the same frequency, allowing
a form of resonance to occur.
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this is a strange animal indeed.
Now for the really fun part, how about diurnal effect?
Google also dug this up: http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM2733.html
Is it possible that you are picking up stray radiation from e.g. your palmtop,
or other digital equipment (scope perhaps?).
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Robin van Spaandonk
(if I
read correctly).
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.
The comment you found had an entirely different meaning and his English is
far from perfect.
Mark
[snip]
I agree. It looks like he is actually suggesting a sort of reciprocal
arrangement.
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also multiply the sticky points.
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Competition provides the motivation,
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-acid batteries.
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.
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Competition provides the motivation,
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.
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Competition provides the motivation,
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, that is released again when they are allowed to
realign.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:45:34 -0500:
Hi,
[snip all]
If the source is natural, it could be a precursor to major tectonic activity.
NYC hasn't had a major Earthquake for time I believe, so I think one is more or
less due.
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Robin van Spaandonk
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energy density than a conventional
lead acid battery, and being an ultracap, it should be rechargeable, at a gas
station, in about the time it would normally take to fill the tank with gas.
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Competition provides the motivation
back to one of the great unsung heroes of invention:
Philo Farnsworth.
Here is another possibility - ion implantation - but this one uses
platinum as well
http://tinyurl.com/2kxutv
Check out the material used in the Borealis power cells.
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source, rather than creating it.
One off-beat possibility is a time distortion field. I wonder if clocks in the
surroundings run at a different speed? :)
[snip]
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
the electric lighting to match the
conditions, but daylight would save a lot nevertheless.
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Competition provides the motivation,
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translucent roofing so that most of their lighting
needs were supplied by daylight.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
In reply to Paul's message of Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:14:41 -0800 (PST):
Hi,
[snip]
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Paul's message of Fri, 12 Jan 2007
07:16:25 -0800 (PST):
Hi,
[snip]
Sounds exactly what you said. Our rate of energy
production is exponential. Given
unlimited free
Russian lab.
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method known as boom and bust.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
contribution is insignificant. Nevertheless wasteful use of CF combined
with a growing and wealthier population, would eventually put us back where we
are today. So it would be wise to continue along the path of energy efficiency.
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light to or away from one
location on the screen. The optics, once fixed, are quite robust. The only
variable is the lamp. which has finite life and must be changed.
[snip]
Thanks Mike.
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Competition provides the motivation
problem at Carslbad
Caverns.. scraping carbonates off the walls takes all the fun out of work.
Just connect an ultrasound generator to the metal for a few seconds, and it will
shatter the scale crystals, so that they can easily be washed off.
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, coming from?
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for a
particle beam traveling at nearly light speed anyway, and acceleration of a
particle beam may be technically easier to achieve.
[snip]
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be kept with
multiple firings or in line shots ) slightly above
synchronous orbit (to stay out of the way of
communications signals and drift around the belt).
Why do you want beam weapons in orbit?
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robust design that produces a better quality image.
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is in Earth orbit, and it's orbit eventually
decays with time, resulting in it burning up in the atmosphere.
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the most
efficient practical way What I was trying to get at, is the fact that it
would be far more efficient than going through a conversion process and then
using e.g. an ion drive.
- Original Message -
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To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday
the flash without the added cost of heating.
Hmmm.. a sort of a hybrid MSF- RO.. (sounds like the lyrics to RAP music.
grin)
What do you think of this:- http://www.aquasonics.com/tech.html ?
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Competition provides the motivation
the exhaust, rather than hanging
on to it, and trying to accelerate it further. Ejecting it has the further
advantage that we get a much larger thrust for the same energy expenditure.
Sorry, I don't feel like breaking my brain trying to do the math on this one. ;)
[snip]
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In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 6 Jan 2007 11:28:22 -0500
(GMT-05:00):
Hi,
[snip]
Robin van Spaandonk writes:
That is not true. If the RO process is 40 times more efficient than MSF (as
it was in some situations, in some locations), then even though 60% of the
heat used to generate
up the chimney. Then part of that 1/3
is used for reverse osmosis. If the 2/3 were used for distillation instead, then
the fresh water yield would be higher, the water would be purer, and you would
still have all of the 1/3 available for other purposes.
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and away the most efficient way of utilizing the fuel.
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convincing them all to go in the same
direction).
IOW 99.95 % of your mass can be vessel + payload (Assuming you have no fuel left
upon attaining escape velocity).
Of course, if you are satisfied with only 99.9 %, then you can come home too. :)
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In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:35:28 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
Reverse osmosis may superficially appear cheaper than distillation,
but in fact
it isn't if one uses one's brains. When coal is burned, 1/3 of the energy goes
into producing electricity
In reply to Mark Goldes's message of Wed, 03 Jan 2007 12:33:52 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
More recent work in thermionics by others, such as Borealis Power, may have
superseded his work.
[snip]
The Borealis work depends on a temperature differential. No violation of 2LoT
involved.
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Robin van
by the greenhouse effect. While FE would
solve that problem, extreme profligate waste will create a new problem of direct
heat overload. It is therefore imperative that efficiency measures be continued
along with the introduction of FE.
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).
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, explaining their ability to stick
together.
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.
Since the house is in a cold climate where snow is expected, I assume it has a
fairly steep pitch to the roof anyway.
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clean nuclear reactions, capable
of using essentially any matter as fuel (probably only metals at present).
http://www.proton21.com.ua/index_en.html
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essentially be shorting the capacitor.
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is almost 100%.
[snip]
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In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:38:20 -0500:
Hi,
An interesting report from the USGS:
http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2002/fs087-02/
Terry
The solution to shortages of *any* elements might be www.proton21.com.ua .
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