a device that not only
self-sustains, but puts out excess power to boot, I think
measurement error is already ruled out. IOW it's either a scam, or
it's real.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
Gauss Oersted, an energy density measure).
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
devices.
Mark
From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Steorn.net
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 08:14:38 +1000
In reply to William Beaty's message of Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:36:37
-0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
It *could* be entirely
seems to have
become lost. In other words the list in general has ignored the
main features of my original post, and concentrated on the trivia.
Regards,
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
that is powers itself, but also that it has
an output power density of about 500 mW / cc, which roughly scales
linearly with size.
[snip]
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
time MUST be accurate and
exactly correct all the time - which provides the appearance of CGSS.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
into the department of nothing
new under the sun... or rediscovering the obvious.
Jones
I'm afraid it's not obvious to me.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
. They have
said
they will accept no further investment until the 12 selected scientists
have
reported their findings.
12 selected scientists, fine, but selected by whom?
Michel
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Competition provides the motivation
In reply to William Beaty's message of Sat, 26 Aug 2006 17:55:55
-0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006, Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
As has been pointed out before on this forum, an electric
generator driven by an electric motor where the ensemble is OU is
easy to demonstrate
is gained or lost depends on
whether one goes with or against the rotator on the other end.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
in fact claim
self-sustaining devices that run for weeks before they manually
stop them to run certain tests.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
of the magnetic axes in the engine might explain
magnetic cooling of the engine).
If anyone sees any potential value in this concept, can they put
some numbers to it?
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides
rather than as some
sort of perverted contest.
Harry
Competition for resources. As the population density increases in
any given region people subconsciously see it more as an
interpersonal competition than as a battle with nature.
CF would alter this situation significantly.
Regards,
Robin van
amplifiers).
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
did you get this info?
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Competition provides the motivation,
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from water
without using electrolysis, then injects the resulting gas mixture
into the fuel-air charge for the combustion engine, boosting
combustion.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
for it
is gone. Soak it in, accept it.
[snip]
As concise descriptions go, this is pretty good. I would say that
there are a few ancillary issues around the edges, but this
certainly covers the core quite well.
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Competition provides
be as completely wild
as you wish grin
Yes, we know a microwave cannot be aimed or focused... thats why we have to
do it.
[snip]
...surely radar does this all the time.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides
introduction of the International Criminal Court, is more or less
what is being done). I would take issue with having both policing
and courts under one roof, so to speak.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
, but personally, I would love to see the paper.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Thu, 17 Aug 2006 00:15:54
-0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
A problem provides the motivation.
Competition and/or cooperation provide the means.
No, competition doesn't
they
wanted...perpetual war, and a continuous stream of *your* tax
dollars flowing into *their* pockets.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
, the methane is already
being released, and hence the feedback loop has already begun.
However it may take as long as they predict to become really
noticeable.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:38:22
-0400:
Hi,
[snip]
On 8/16/06, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let them all in. With CF Australia would easily support the same
population as the US. The huge decrease in population density and
increase in standard
- no. ;)
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
In reply to Kyle R. Mcallister's message of Tue, 15 Aug 2006
18:08:48 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
- Original Message -
From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products
Wrong. Both Jews and Christians
and I make no excuses for them, and I certainly
don't say We are in the right, and should be bombing the crap out
of them.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
all in. With CF Australia would easily support the same
population as the US. The huge decrease in population density and
increase in standard of living that ensued for the teaming
hordes would cool their fervor.
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Competition
right
hand corner near the end of the film (usually yellowish), to warn
the operator to change reels.
Could this be related?
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
,
Robin van Spaandonk
http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/
Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
for himself and his family (in all
countries).
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
supporting the 'bad guys' as seen from the perspective
of Austrailia and other nations. Just remember that the finger of greed
points in all directions.
Indeed, which is why we need to follow it to find a real solution
to the problem.
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
http://users.bigpond.net.au
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:29:34
-0400:
Hi,
[snip]
On 8/12/06, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NaCl might not be the best choice. Apart from the fact that it
tends to create corrosive byproducts, and toxic chlorine gas, it
doesn't contain any Mills
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:34:39
-0400:
Hi,
[snip]
On 8/12/06, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
According to Tesla, the batteries are good for 500 recharges. If
you recharge the batteries every night, they are going to need
replacing after 18 months
are.
Wrong. Both Jews and Christians *are* doing these things too. The
only difference is that the Muslims don't have expensive airplanes
to drop their bombs from, and they don't kill as many people.
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Competition provides the motivation
, because
the value of the $ would drop).
That is what this struggle is really about. Equality and fairness.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
itself through internal strife (this gets *no* media attention),
and the third is about getting rid of the US.
The first and the last would be moot with the advent of free
energy (since the US would leave then anyway).
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in the region.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
Mills catalysts. Better choices would be
K2CO3, KOH, LiOH.
charged water for a tank. Hopefully, we will have answers within a
couple of weeks.
[snip]
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
by the plates.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
the batteries every night, they are going to need
replacing after 18 months(?). If you don't recharge every night,
then you need to keep a careful eye on the charge level so that
you know which night you *do* need to recharge.
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by greenhouse
gasses (which would of course be eliminated by conversion to CF).
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
like a $25K US Tek Scope and
followed with a standard formula of Vrms=Sqrt(y/x)* Vp, where Vp is the
pulse max V, y is the pulse width and x is leading edge to leading edge.
Does this mean that the 1.2 V you were referring to was Vrms or
peak?
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
http
tray?
On 8/3/06, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps it's just dissolved gas in the water forming a bubble at
the site of a dislocation in the surface of the Teflon. Perhaps
it got scratched somewhat when you put the assembly in the tray?
In which case they would form in rows
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:33:44
-0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Perhaps some ions from the anode are going into solution where
they displace dissolved gasses which then accumulate on the nearby
plastic surface?
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in gas formation, it's possible that the gas is
actually only being produced during the actual peak of the pulse,
where it exceeds ~ 1.2 V.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
,
Robin van Spaandonk
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
, however not as efficient as using the electric
power to recharge betteries (due to the inefficient use of the
resulting methanol).
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/
Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
,
Robin van Spaandonk
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
to breakeven - if that was an intended
implication. Half-full or half-empty?
Jones
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
. :)
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
of the crust, which in
turn would result in the crust slipping relative to the core as a
consequence of conservation of angular momentum.
...ok, I am bumming myself out now. sorry.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:44:18
-0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Thanks. Does anyone know if Paul Potter's model has been built and
tested?
On 7/28/06, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With pictures of the model:
http://website.lineone.net/~aarekhu/elecfg.htm
measures to protect themselves from the effects, rather than
running around trying to convince others that there are no such
things as hurricanes.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
thought. I can't envisage the
actual mechanism yet.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:18:29
-0400:
Hi,
[snip]
With pictures of the model:
http://website.lineone.net/~aarekhu/elecfg.htm
What does this have to do with Methernitha?
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Competition provides
are
paying for the milk with currency that you print yourself, and
force the rest of the world to also use to buy milk (thus keeping
the value of your currency artificially high).
[snip]
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Competition provides the motivation
Really.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
,
Robin van Spaandonk
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
workers
to their home planet when on furlough.
If you think this is far fetched, then I suggest you read
The Contact Has Begun and The Challenge of Contact by Phillip
H. Krapf.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
and anode by the number of segments. In a
Joe cell it's usually 3-4 segments resulting in the voltage drop
across each being about 12/4 = 3 Volts. This is also a far
superior way of utilizing grid voltage, since no transformer is
needed at all, just a cheap (low current) bridge.
Regards,
Robin van
in the
80's I think wherein he showed that the Casimir force causes a
sphere to expand, not contract (apparently it depends on the shape
of the wall). However a quick google search turned this up:
http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0408184
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In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Mon, 10 Jul 2006 00:40:10
-0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
3) Everything is connected - if it is not connected, it isn't
real
is ...If it isn't real, then it has no value.
This is a sure fire recipe for destruction of those humans
that are wired in can be
controlled.
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Cooperation provides the means.
,
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
and Joe Cell kits are obtainable here:-
http://www.nutech2000.com/category2_1.htm
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
.
It does however make an entertaining description of the status
quo.
[snip]
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
]
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
In reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s message of Fri, 07 Jul
2006 20:21:05 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Agreed. However, one must know where one is in order to get to where
one wants to be.
[snip]
IOW we build castles in the air.
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Competition
in the source. This
is one of the pieces of missing information.
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Competition provides the motivation,
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. Even using the most conservative figure of 5000
gallons/acre that should produce over 30 billion gallons yearly,
and perhaps 60 billion due to the prime location.
...which works out to about 10-20% of US consumption (if memory
serves correctly).
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http
downwind of the
prevailing winds in the area. The wind may regularly blow the
floating algae right into the collector.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
Hi,
Not sure whether or not this has recently been posted here.
http://www.physorg.com/news70540915.html
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because the photons in one path are
stopped by the detector (otherwise the detector wouldn't be
detecting anything). It has nothing to do with what the
experimenter knows. You can achieve exactly the same result by
blocking one path with your finger.
[snip]
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http
it a few months back, but saw no sign of rotation.
Mind you, it was very difficult to get the compass to stay
balanced. Perhaps another Vort will have more luck. :)
[snip]
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would have to
give up ~ 22.5 eV when dropped from the 2.43E-6
[snip]
I note that 22.5 eV is less than 40.8 eV which is the energy
released during first level hydrino formation, so formation of
some hydrinos would do the trick.
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think the whole sky
appears to narrow to a single point of light. Someone please
correct me if I'm wrong.
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Competition provides the motivation,
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]
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Competition provides the motivation,
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,
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
In reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s message of Fri, 30 Jun
2006 21:16:15 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
-Original Message-
From: Robin van Spaandonk
Actually I don't even believe that information is transferred, let
alone energy.
Perhaps I should have said I don't even believe that information
they are not much bigger than the
central unit itself. We now have a unit with a mass ~= 8 amu, and
virtually no charge. This little critter could fuse with other
nuclei, and would add 8 amu / reaction.
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Competition provides
really
been lost anyway, just converted from one form to another.
In this way one might see such a device as a negative entropy
generator, where the random energy of the ZPE is converted into a
more coherent and useful form.
[snip]
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In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Fri, 16 Jun 2006
02:17:24 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
So, where'd the energy to dent the box come from?
[snip]
You'll find out when you try to remove it. ;)
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Competition provides
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:47:10
-0400:
Hi,
[snip]
http://www.awea.org/news/First_Quarter_Market_Report_Energy_On_Track_050306.html
[snip]
Note the appropriate name:)
AWEA executive director Randall Swisher
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the path to be followed,
rather than human prejudice.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
of determining who should get paid.
[snip]
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, so it takes up a lot of room in the cylinder. Much more
than a liquid fuel would. Consequently, the energy liberated in
each power stroke is less. There is simply both less fuel and less
oxygen in the cylinder.
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Competition
,
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Cooperation provides the means.
the reactor vessel.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
Hi,
http://www.physorg.com/news68373280.html
If they let the wind farms proceed and displace fossil fuels, they
wouldn't need a military.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
like
a sieve. We gave up on it.
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rate of use
for 285 billion years. :)
The previous reaction may actually take place in two steps:-
Hy + O18 - N15 + He4 + 4 MeV, followed by the first reaction.
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Competition provides the motivation,
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it would be a bit warmer ;).
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of a Hydrogen Argon/Helium plasma.
(Or you mine them from fresh rain water from a thunderstorm that
has sprites/jets soon after impact of a CME with the atmosphere).
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be
reasonably accurate. At worst, input power measurements will be a
little too high due to resistance losses in the inductor.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
is recovered from the exhaust,
the energy of condensation is lost.
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Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
are a foreigner, it takes a while for the NSA to clear
your email. ;^)
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Competition provides the motivation,
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.
[snip]
Pretreatment could also put some metal ions from the anode into
solution, helping to increase conductivity.
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