I first met Jed at the CETI demo. It was nice to really meet him in person.
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From: Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
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Perhaps
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps Patterson realized he didn't have anything which is why he
blustered instead of accepting a deal that would only lead to
disappointment.
There is not the slightest evidence for that, and absolutely no motivation
or method by which he
Frank Znidarsic fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
I first met Jed at the CETI demo. It was nice to really meet him in person.
Huh. When you consider that I was hopping mad and fit to be tied, the fact
that I was nice to meet is a credit to my self control, or at least, to
my ability to practice
In the private demo, which Jed was excluded, because they were mad at him, I
noted the preheater. I multiplied the frequency of the thermal vibrations
times the domain size and got 1 million meters per second.
The constant, Znidarsic's constant, 1,094,000 meters per second. It is the
From: Blaze Spinnaker
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Ø Perhaps Patterson realized he didn't have anything which is why he blustered
instead of accepting a deal that would only lead to disappointment.
Sadly, this will be the way that history and mainstream physics will remember
CETI unless the excess energy from
The very slow timeline and we are still not even close.
1996 observed the 1 million meters per second velocity in the CETI cell.
2000 ANS 200 meeting presented my theorem. The constants of the motion
converge in a Bose condensate stimulated at a dimensional frequency of 1 mega
hertz
I observed the velocity of one million meters per second at the CETI demo. I
felt that it was important. At first, as an Electrical Engineer, I produced
this velocity in terms of electrical units. I had a quantum of capacitance and
units of inductance. After taking some physics
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I observed the velocity of one million meters per second at the CETI demo. I
felt
or energy or angular momentum?
(This may be the same basic question as the previous one.)
Bob
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I observed
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From: Blaze Spinnaker
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Ø Perhaps Patterson realized he didn't have anything which is why he
Sorry Frank, but you are just as wrong now as you were then.
http://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?rp|search_for=proton+radius
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From: Frank Znidarsic mailto:fznidar...@aol.com
There were those that stated that my analysis was wrong
21, 2014 12:04 PM
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Sorry Frank, but you are just as wrong now as you were then.
http://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?rp|search_for=proton+radius
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From: Frank
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Sorry Frank, but you are just as wrong now as you were then.
http://physics.nist.gov/cgi
am wrong.
Bob Cook
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Sorry Frank, but you are just as wrong now as you were then.
http://physics.nist.gov
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From: Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
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Frank--
Those numbers are impressive.
thanks Bob
Does the maximum range of the strong
Subject: RE: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?
Sorry Frank, but you are just as wrong now as you were then.
http://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?rp|search_for=proton+radius
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On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
Does the maximum range of the strong nuclear force match the idea of a
sonic velocity of the nucleus very well?
I believe nuclear phonons are entirely quantum. In this regard I wonder
whether there's a sense in which
: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?
On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
Does the maximum range of the strong nuclear force match the idea of a sonic
velocity of the nucleus very well?
I believe nuclear phonons are entirely quantum
on 22passi, some skeptic refers to an old story of 1995 about CETI
I don't understand all, but it seems not to be honest story? (remind me
some greek sad joke, but I wait for confirmation)
it seems covered by NET
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
on 22passi, some skeptic refers to an old story of 1995 about CETI
I don't understand all, but it seems not to be honest story? (remind me
some greek sad joke, but I wait for confirmation)
It was honest as the day is long. I wrote it. I do not
I haven't seen the 22passi discussion, but it is easy to cast doubt on
something that happened in the past without actually having been a part of
the experiment. It is also disreputable to do so without any real evidence.
I have the opportunity to visit with Dennis Cravens, who is only a few
Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't seen the 22passi discussion, but it is easy to cast doubt on
something that happened in the past without actually having been a part of
the experiment. It is also disreputable to do so without any real evidence.
Well, my description is
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote:
The Motorola deal fell through because Patterson wanted to retain more
control of his technology . . .
He was a fool. He told me he wanted a 100% market share. I said
Alain: If you want to post a message at 22passi explaining that I wrote
that, and you feel like copying my message posted here, go ahead.
Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote:
He was a fool. He told me he wanted a 100% market share. I said you will
end up with 100% of nothing. I was
If it makes any difference, Jed confided in me this whole story when it
happened. I found it appalling. Patterson wanted the $1M from Motorola
but he wanted control of the secret. I had empathy for Motorola since they
gave me my first job out of school and I wanted to see CF succeed. CETI
As I recall, the deal was $10M, spread over various milestones of
development.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
If it makes any difference, Jed confided in me this whole story when it
happened. I found it appalling. Patterson wanted the $1M from
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
If it makes any difference, Jed confided in me this whole story when it
happened. I found it appalling. Patterson wanted the $1M from Motorola
but he wanted control of the secret.
I forgot that detail. Forgetting such things is a mercy.
CETI could
Perhaps Patterson realized he didn't have anything which is why he
blustered instead of accepting a deal that would only lead to
disappointment.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
As I recall, the deal was $10M, spread over various milestones of
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