bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote:
> The utilities love that combination of lower cost and higher profit
> margins, with no competition.
>
The utilities do have a valid point regarding electricity from rooftop PV
installations. It costs them money to accept this
Harry-
Most electricity prices are set by state commissions. These commissions ignore
the lower costs associated with reduced production and the resulting increased
profit margin of the utilities they regulate.
The utilities love that combination of lower cost and higher profit margins,
Jones—
You noted: “The grid suppliers on average are receiving about the same income
today despite higher prices due to lower demand. It is that simple.”
I would think considering supply and demand economics that a lower demand would
reduce prices of electricity as occurs with reduced demand
Bob, do you think the ultility companies are keeping demand depressed by
keeping prices high in their favour?
Harry
On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 8:13 PM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>
> My local utility currently charges me about $100 per year to feed
> electricity
I though that the document Jed provided a link to indicated that co-generation
by businesses displaced grid electricity because it was cheaper.This is
especially true in Japan where co-generation of electricity using waste heat
from industrial facilities has lead the world in this area of
I wonder what the relationship between age and energy demand is like.
Given that the average age is increasing this might have something to do
with the drop in demand.
Harry
On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 2:48 PM, JonesBeene wrote:
> Those of us who are completely focused on LENR
Also consider the increase in efficiencies in the homes here. Incentives to
improve leakage and appliance consumption through tax incentives have been
implemented by this author. My home energy consumption is half what it was
a decade ago.
On Mar 2, 2018 8:44 PM, "Jed Rothwell"
I wrote:
U.S. manufacturing is at record highs. Manufacturing employment is down,
> and the U.S. fraction of world manufacturing is down, but in absolute terms
> it is higher than it has ever been. It is even higher when you include
> things like mining and agriculture. Manufacturing energy use
wrote:
I think another important factor was the stock market in 2008, which caused
> many
> people to become more conservative in their spending. They actually
> started to
> make an effort to save energy.
>
People have been making intense efforts to save energy since the
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Sat, 03 Mar 2018 12:29:28 +1100:
Hi,
[snip]
>I think another important factor was the stock market in 2008, which caused
>many
>people to become more conservative in their spending. They actually started to
>make an effort to save energy.
...read
Bob Higgins wrote:
It seems to me that another factor in the decline has been the decline in
> manufacturing in the USA.
>
U.S. manufacturing is at record highs. Manufacturing employment is down,
and the U.S. fraction of world manufacturing is down, but in absolute
In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Fri, 2 Mar 2018 18:06:50 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
>It seems to me that another factor in the decline has been the decline in
>manufacturing in the USA. I know that when the Fukushima disaster struck,
>the net reduction in available power in Japan caused significant
It seems to me that another factor in the decline has been the decline in
manufacturing in the USA. I know that when the Fukushima disaster struck,
the net reduction in available power in Japan caused significant problems
in manufacturing - hinting that manufacturing was a large consumer of the
Has anyone looked at the impact of fracking on the data? Heating is a major
energy sink and the difference in gas vs electric heating costs (even with
heat pumps) could be a major driver in new builds.
Andrew
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On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 6:31 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
JonesBeene wrote:
Not to mention the electric car. Tesla alone “should have” increased the
> demand for electrical power. This has not happened.
>
I have not looked at the numbers, but I kind of doubt that Tesla alone
could have a measurable effect. Perhaps Tesla + Leaf +
Those of us who are completely focused on LENR or new sources for alternative
energy may have missed the big picture story. We have not been “following the
buck” so to speak.
That is, when you look at the changes in the supply/demand of conventional
energy since the beginning of the Industrial
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