Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy patent granted in China

2012-09-06 Thread Teslaalset
Interesting. According to the Chinese Patent website (SIPO), I found following info : — What kind of invention cannot be patented in China? China Patent refuse the following categories: According to Article 5 and Article 25 of the China Patent Law, the following

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy patent granted in China

2012-09-06 Thread Teslaalset
Item (2) is also kind of strange b.t.w. On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.comwrote: Interesting. According to the Chinese Patent website (SIPO), I found following info : — What kind of invention cannot be patented in China?

RE: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy patent granted in China

2012-09-06 Thread John Newman
September 2012 12:15 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy patent granted in China Item (2) is also kind of strange b.t.w. On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting. According to the Chinese Patent website (SIPO), I found

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy patent granted in China

2012-09-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
John Newman johnws.new...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Also re item (2), a friend of mine said, over 50 years ago now, that you can’t patent a law of nature, otherwise you’d have to pay royalties to the estate of Sir Isaac Newton every time an apple fell on your head. Sir Isaac's patent would have

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy patent granted in China

2012-09-06 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
Similarly, I think the point to item (6) is that you cannot patent the *substance *that is produced by nuclear transformation. I think the reason for this statement appears right in the paragraph Jed quoted: in general, you *can *patent new compositions of matter, e.g. a new plastic, etc. Their

RE: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy patent granted in China

2012-09-06 Thread Jones Beene
From: Teslaalset - What kind of invention cannot be patented in China? [snip] (6) substances obtained by means of nuclear transformation. Looks like the Chinese, in granting the patent, have determined that Ni-H is not a process which is dependent on

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy patent granted in China

2012-09-06 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: It is a QNF or quasi-nuclear fusion process involving the reversible reaction: P+P-2He-P+P If this reaction is always exothermic, wouldn't this mean the average the mass of the proton is decreasing with time? Harry

RE: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy patent granted in China

2012-09-06 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Harry Veeder P+P-2He-P+P If this reaction is always exothermic, wouldn't this mean the average the mass of the proton is decreasing with time? Harry, Yes, exactly - but even a tiny fraction of ~1GeV per atom can provide tens of thousands of times more energy

RE: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy patent granted in China

2012-09-06 Thread Jones Beene
Good question, Mark. I am encouraged by the fact that in the basic physics going back years - the Russian Labs did not arrive at the exact same number for hydrogen mass as here. That could mean different instrumentation introduces systemic errors - or that there is a natural variation ... and

RE: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy patent granted in China

2012-09-06 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:44 AM 9/6/2012, Jones Beene wrote: From: Teslaalset ­ What kind of invention cannot be patented in China? [snip] (6) substances obtained by means of nuclear transformation. Looks like the Chinese, in granting the patent, have determined that Ni-H is

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy patent granted in China

2012-09-06 Thread Alain Sepeda
it seems to protect someone to patent an element, like some patent DNA, existing discovered plant... imagine that you patent element bigmoneynium 312... however you ca patent the machine to make bigmoneynium 312... there was a battle in china I remember to patent or not molecule. chinese

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy patent granted in China

2012-09-06 Thread Teslaalset
Anyone that knows Brilliouins new patent nr as granted by the Chinese Patent Office? On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: it seems to protect someone to patent an element, like some patent DNA, existing discovered plant... imagine that you patent

[Vo]:Brillouin Energy patent granted in China

2012-09-04 Thread Ruby
http://coldfusionnow.org/brillouin-energy-patent-granted-in-china/ -- Ruby Carat r...@coldfusionnow.org mailto:r...@coldfusionnow.org www.coldfusionnow.org http://www.coldfusionnow.org