what is the problem,
he control nothing in fact.
senate is controlling what he does,
and lobbies control the senators with cash for campaign...
it is well known that business run US, and that is the secret of it's
economic power.
it works. at least for the business.
:-
2012/1/15
On 01/11/2012 11:28 PM, James Bowery wrote:
The only way to get capitalism to work is to shift the tax base from
economic activity to the liquidation value of assets, and set the tax
rate to the interest rate used to calculate liquidation value.
But no one with wealth wants that to happen
I think the problem is not with Capitalism (you cannot find anything better
or more realistic, it is with Moneytheism- the most popular and
destructive religion today.
Peter
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar wrote:
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On 01/11/2012 11:28 PM, James Bowery wrote:
On 01/14/2012 09:21 AM, Peter Gluck wrote:
I think the problem is not with Capitalism (you cannot find anything
better or more realistic, it is with Moneytheism- the most popular
and destructive religion today.
I think the same. The problem is in the way money is taken as a value in
itself,
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar wrote:
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On 01/11/2012 11:28 PM, James Bowery wrote:
The only way to get capitalism to work is to shift the tax base from
economic activity to the liquidation value of assets, and set the tax rate
to the interest rate used to
BRAVO. Well said by all.
A bit off-topic, but with keen insight, which is hard to find these days,
on-topic.
-Original Message-
From: Mauro Lacy
I think the same. The problem is in the way money is taken as a value in
itself, when it should be considered just a convenient form of
We need to put down the guns.
Every action taken by government, whether it's a new law, or some tax,
is enforced by violence and the threat of violence. It's enforced at
the point of a gun. We need to stop using guns to solve our social
problems. Replace laws with voluntary agreements, and
From Mauro,
. The problem is in the way money is taken as a value
in itself, when it should be considered just a convenient form
of replacement for other, real values.
The way money is valued, that's where the real problem lies. In fact,
we're in a really stupid state of affairs, come
Perhaps this document:
Capitalism: Reject or Retool?: http://bigthink.com/ideas/41870:
from INFORMAVORES SUNDAY No 490 can help you in this problem.
Peter
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 6:50 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
From Mauro,
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… The
In reply to Mauro Lacy's message of Sat, 14 Jan 2012 08:59:31 -0300:
Hi,
[snip]
Maybe the solution is what Fidel Castro proposed recently: replace the
US president with a robot.
They already did that decades ago. ;^)
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
The only way to get capitalism to work is to shift the tax base from
economic activity to the liquidation value of assets, and set the tax rate
to the interest rate used to calculate liquidation value.
But no one with wealth wants that to happen even though just about everyone
who has high
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:28 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
In other words: All fall down.
I don't know you; but, this is the most aware perception that I have
ever seen posted on this or any other list.
I have just had a conversation with my wife on world politics and she
is not
a world in which there is almost no poverty, without a global basic income.
From: Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion Economic Effects
Cold fusion will solve every
to live in a nice house,
have nice cars, etc.
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion Economic Effects
The Internet has improved efficiency in a wide range
, then it will produce new conflicts, this is foreseeable.
best regards,
Peter
- Original Nachricht
Von: Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 13.12.2011 08:10
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion Economic Effects
Cold fusion will solve every major global problems
noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote:
I am all for vertical agriculture, but I am totally opposed to a global
basic income. I do not support socialism or communism.
Socialism, communism and capitalism are all based on ordinary people
trading labor for money. In a few decades human labor
Chris Zell wrote:
Once the emergence is established, there will be evidence of public grief by
various enviromentalists and climate change activists. Only a few will observe
what this teaches about their real motives were
I'm not having a go at Chris directly here but he repeats a common
Thanks Jed for explaining this automation argument in detail again. It
is surprising how it seems impossible for humans to comprehend that
argument, because this has been the reality for decades. And we have
all the evidence if we just look around.
However automation is not bad thing. We just
If Cold Fusion or other forms of nearly free energy emerge, obviously there
will be radical change in the world. 'Free' energy will have a profoundly
deflationary effect on the world economy. Oil will move towards a price
consistent with being a chemical feedstock, eventually, as automobiles
Zell, Chris chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote:
'Free' energy will stimulate economies temporarily as new products are
eagerly bought - however, in the longer term, it will deflate
general economic demand in a manner similar to what the internet did for
recorded music, movies and pornography (!).
The Internet has improved efficiency in a wide range of industries, such as
grocery store inventory. Has it had a deflationary effect on these
industries? I do not know.
It has deflated goods and services directly produced by the Internet
itself, such as publishing books. Amazon Kindle books are
Cold fusion will solve every major global problems. And they can be defined
with two words:
For environmental problems: _vertical agriculture_
For political problems: _global basic income_
And ALL known political, economical and environmental problems are solved
and we live in the age of Star
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