Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-26 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:52 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: (However if you include the Ni mass in the energy density calculation and assume 1 H/Ni, then you get about 21640 eV / H atom which is beginning to stretch the friendship a bit.) Do your calculations make assumptions about the

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-26 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Mon, 26 May 2014 08:37:09 -0700: Hi, [snip] On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:52 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: (However if you include the Ni mass in the energy density calculation and assume 1 H/Ni, then you get about 21640 eV / H atom which is beginning to

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-24 Thread Nigel Dyer
Triple helixes are not involved in replication. The DNA/DNA/RNA version forms when RNA that is produced from the DNA then wraps itself around the double stranded DNA and it thne restructures itself to form a triple helix. This will only happen with pure DNA if the sequences are palindromic.

RE: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-24 Thread Jones Beene
From: Eric Walker mix...@bigpond.com wrote: (Still not impossible, as the maximum energy you can get from Hydrinos is 137^2 x 13.6 eV ~= 255 keV (actually precisely half an electron mass) from each

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-24 Thread ChemE Stewart
I agree with that line of thinking. I also think the Dirac sea is a Stormy Sea On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: From: Eric Walker mix...@bigpond.com wrote: (Still not impossible, as the maximum energy

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-24 Thread Axil Axil
Nickel is a special LENR metal because it reflects near infrared light the best of any material. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: From: Eric Walker mix...@bigpond.com wrote: (Still not impossible, as the

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-24 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: If we must choose between the two major non-nuclear hypothetical sources for power density in LENR – some version of the Dirac sea (ZPE) seems to beat out electron shrinkage by a country mile ... I rather like the imagery

RE: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-24 Thread Jones Beene
From: Eric Walker If we must choose between the two major non-nuclear hypothetical sources for power density in LENR – some version of the Dirac sea (ZPE) seems to beat out electron shrinkage by a country mile ...

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-24 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jones, I like your thinking about that some people wants glory and megabucks while others just want to know why. I like the generous attitude and I think that AR should make liaisons with people who mostly wants to know why in as many ways as possible.The secrecy and the misleading maneuvers do

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Fri, 23 May 2014 20:57:54 -0700: Hi, [snip] On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:52 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: (Still not impossible, as the maximum energy you can get from Hydrinos is 137^2 x 13.6 eV ~= 255 keV (actually precisely half an electron mass) from each

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Nigel Dyer's message of Sat, 24 May 2014 15:04:02 +0100: Hi, [snip] Triple helixes are not involved in replication. The DNA/DNA/RNA version forms when RNA that is produced from the DNA then wraps itself around the double stranded DNA and it thne restructures itself to form a

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-23 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Wed, 21 May 2014 20:24:38 -0700: Hi, [snip] On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: For instance, relativistic electron pumping via Dirac mechanics would not be nuclear. Is this a Dirac sea mechanism? Aside from a nuclear

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-23 Thread mixent
In reply to Nigel Dyer's message of Wed, 21 May 2014 17:31:32 +0100: Hi, [snip] And not just LENR. I am currently looking at how this may occur in the copper that is associated with DNA/DNA/RNA triple helixes Are triple helices involved in DNA replication, and if so if the copper attached to

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:52 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: I assume that by 10E7 you actually mean 1E7 , i.e. 10 million ;). Yes -- it would be nice for my argument if it were 10E7, but really it's 1E7. :) (However if you include the Ni mass in the energy density calculation and assume 1

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:52 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: (Still not impossible, as the maximum energy you can get from Hydrinos is 137^2 x 13.6 eV ~= 255 keV (actually precisely half an electron mass) from each Hydrogen atom.) This is to full redundancy? I think there's an effect that is

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-21 Thread Terry Blanton
In consideration of the recent posting regarding converting light into mass, the upper limit of energy density is set by the speed of light at 2.5 x 10^13 Wh/kg. Although the scientists have not actually converted photons to electrons and positrons, a controlled reverse process can be conceived

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-21 Thread Nigel Dyer
And not just LENR. I am currently looking at how this may occur in the copper that is associated with DNA/DNA/RNA triple helixes Nigel On 20/05/2014 16:28, Jones Beene wrote: With all the recent talk about the overlooked magnetic component of LENR - and spin coupling - at least for Ni-H and

RE: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-21 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Nigel Dyer And not just LENR. I am currently looking at how this may occur in the copper that is associated with DNA/DNA/RNA triple helixes Cyril Smith says: If we wish to use Larmor precessions as charge pumps, but without external microwaves maintaining the

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-21 Thread ChemE Stewart
50 million in US with autoimmune diseases and growing. We are cooked (by microwaves) On Wednesday, May 21, 2014, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Nigel Dyer And not just LENR. I am currently looking at how this may occur in the copper that is

RE: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-21 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton In consideration of the recent posting regarding converting light into mass, the upper limit of energy density is set by the speed of light at 2.5 x 10^13 Wh/kg… Such process would not necessarily involve any nucleus. Yes - Exactamundo… this is

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-21 Thread Alain Sepeda
recent data on kids, shows that the consumption of antibiotic while young kid is doubling asthman and alergy... more generally the hygiena hypothesis seems validated since long and denied by mainstream because of inconvenient conclusion that don't please the whistleblowers that have their

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-21 Thread Nigel Dyer
I have been looking at copper because it has an interesting relationship with the DNA triple helix.There is no evidence that iron has such an intimate relationship. The Copper 2+ ion is magnetic, and is borderline between being ferro and ferri magnetic, and I suspect that biology has

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-21 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: In consideration of the recent posting regarding converting light into mass, the upper limit of energy density is set by the speed of light at 2.5 x 10^13 Wh/kg. Although the scientists have not actually converted

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-21 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: For instance, relativistic electron pumping via Dirac mechanics would not be nuclear. Is this a Dirac sea mechanism? Aside from a nuclear source, we have as possibilities f/H shrinkage, something coming out of the Dirac

[Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-20 Thread Jones Beene
With all the recent talk about the overlooked magnetic component of LENR - and spin coupling - at least for Ni-H and the Rossi effect, here is an excellent older paper which may contain insight on another piece of the puzzle, even if it was written to explain a completely different phenomenon (the

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-20 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Since many observers seem wedded to a fusion scenario, despite the lack of any relevant indicia of a nuclear reaction, this insight from Cyril may be limited to those on the fringe of the fringe. There is at least one

RE: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-20 Thread Jones Beene
From: Eric Walker There is at least one relevant indicium that NiH is a nuclear process: http://b-i.forbesimg.com/markgibbs/files/2013/05/130520_ragone_04.png Hmm… your assumption seems to be that if any reaction is an outlier to the main grouping, and much higher in energy or

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-20 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: If you think about that logically for a while, you will probably realize that your conclusion is false for reasons related to the incompleteness of the chart. Far from the conclusion that the location on the Ragone chart