Re: [Vo]:Debye of Pd

2013-07-26 Thread H Veeder
If being above the Debye temperature is one of the preconditions for excess heat, then Pd systems don't need an application of heat if they are done at room temperature (20C), since the Debye temperature of Pd is several degrees lower than room temperature. Harry On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:47

RE: [Vo]:Debye of Pd

2013-07-26 Thread DJ Cravens
-0400 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Debye of Pd From: hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com If being above the Debye temperature is one of the preconditions for excess heat, then Pd systems don't need an application of heat if they are done at room temperature (20C), since the Debye temperature of Pd

RE: [Vo]:Debye of Pd

2013-07-26 Thread DJ Cravens
a little seems to really help. Notice in the codep exper. that the codep on Au plating works so much better than just directly on Cu. Au in Pd really drops the Ef. D2 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 14:06:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Debye of Pd From: hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com

Re: [Vo]:Debye of Pd

2013-07-26 Thread Roarty, Francis X
[mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 2:07 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Debye of Pd If being above the Debye temperature is one of the preconditions for excess heat, then Pd systems don't need an application of heat if they are done at room temperature

Re: [Vo]:Debye of Pd

2013-07-26 Thread James Bowery
:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Debye of Pd ** ** If being above the Debye temperature is one of the preconditions for excess heat, then Pd systems don't need an application of heat if they are done at room temperature (20C), since the Debye temperature of Pd is several degrees lower than room temperature

Re: [Vo]:Debye of Pd

2013-07-26 Thread mixent
In reply to DJ Cravens's message of Fri, 26 Jul 2013 13:41:48 -0600: Hi, [snip] My mental model more easily sees the optical phonons pushing D's together then it sees acoustical phonons doing that. For D this may be appropriate, but it goes nowhere toward explaining H + Ni, where the reaction

Re: [Vo]:Debye of Pd

2013-07-26 Thread mixent
In reply to James Bowery's message of Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:39:20 -0500: Hi, I think it's only important to be *above* the Debye temp. Perhaps even the further above the better. This response mysteriously ended up going to Francis rather than vortex-l. -- Forwarded message --

[Vo]:Debye of Pd

2013-07-25 Thread Frank Roarty
Harry Didn't Arrata have heat with PD powder at room temp? Maybe anomalous heat is a function of transition thru Debye temp and those experiments extracting heat provide repeated opportunities to make this transition at a higher rate. Fran

Re: [Vo]:Debye of Pd

2013-07-25 Thread David Roberson
froarty...@comcast.net To: hveeder000 hveeder...@gmail.com Cc: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Jul 25, 2013 7:49 am Subject: [Vo]:Debye of Pd Harry Didn't Arrata have heat with PD powder at room temp? Maybe anomalous heat is a function of transition thru Debye temp and those experiments