Hi,
It's so sad to notice that my gutfeeling about Defkalion was
unfortunately right.
On 15-5-2014 20:11, Jed Rothwell wrote:
It seems the whole thing fell apart after Rossi broke the contract. My
guess is that he never transferred the technology to them. That's what
he said, and I suppose
I haven't made up my mind one way or another, I want DGT to succeed as I've
always had a certain amount of belief in them despite their shortcomings,
but in regards to labeling Jed as biased, couldn't the same be said of you?
I.e. that it's comforting to think Gamberale is unfairly attacking and
Experimental information describing the Ni/H reactor is dammed hard to come
by. With the negativity toward DGT shown by much of the LENR elite, our
best source of this precious info will be cut off for no good reason. What
good does it do for Jed to undercut anyone in this field, especially such a
*our best source of this precious info will be cut off for no good reason.
What good does it do for Jed to undercut anyone in this field, especially
such a rich source of info.*
DGT isn't basing their decisions to release information to the public based
on what Jed thinks or has to say on the
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
As has been mentioned, we don't know much about Gamberale.
We do know a lot about him. Lewan has a link to his biography, and he just
added this to his blog:
Gamberale has a PhD in theoretical high energy physics from the University
of Milan, and at
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Experimental information describing the Ni/H reactor is dammed hard to come
by.
Yes, because Defkalion refused to publish anything. Now that Gamberale has
published and Xanthoulis, the president of Defkalion confirmed him, we have
all experimental
Where did you get that Defkalion Europe was a joint venture?
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
I am referring to the documents and presentations produced by Dr. Kim with
DGT for ICCF conferences. Have you read any of them?
Does Rossi produce like data?
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Experimental
I judge the MIT conference that DGT pulled out of as a sign of disgust with
the powers that be in the LENR field and the first step at going dark to
them for DGT.
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
I am referring to the documents and presentations produced by
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
I am referring to the documents and presentations produced by Dr. Kim with
DGT for ICCF conferences. Have you read any of them?
Kim based his statements on data from Defkalion, showing excess heat. That
data was completely wrong. It was either a mistake or
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
I judge the MIT conference that DGT pulled out of as a sign of disgust with
the powers that be in the LENR field and the first step at going dark to
them for DGT.
They pulled out because they knew this scandal would soon break. They knew
the jig was up.
I
DGT was producing steam, not 212 water. The change of state energy from
water to steam was not reflected in the COP calculations. Yes this is
inaccurate, but gross under estimate of the COP. I am depending on memory,
correct me if I have erred.
Jed, you are whipping yourselfer into a frenzy of
Recombination shoud read Recrimination.
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
DGT was producing steam, not 212 water. The change of state energy from
water to steam was not reflected in the COP calculations. Yes this is
inaccurate, but gross under estimate of
Gamberale has a PhD in theoretical high energy physics from the University of
Milan, and at the Milan based Pirelli Labs he has further developed the
theoretical work in coherent electrodynamics by his countryman, late Dr.
Giuliano Preparata. Among his experimental work he has been assessing
The level of competence needed to verify the claimed error is not much
higher than of a plumber. But, you don't know the staff of DGT to make such
claim.
2014-05-16 13:07 GMT-03:00 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net:
Gamberale’s level of competence surpasses the entire staff of DGT by
an
*Judas Iscariot* was said to be the brightest of the 12 apostates, but the
least trustworthy.
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Gamberale has a PhD in theoretical high energy physics from the
University of Milan, and at the Milan based Pirelli Labs he
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Jed, you are whipping yourselfer into a frenzy of [recrimination].
Pot, meet kettle.
The right word might be crimination. I don't believe that I am meeting the
spirit of Jed's responces as follows:
1. to charge with a crime.
2. to incriminate.
3. to censure (something) as criminal: condemn
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri,
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Judas Iscariot was said to be the brightest of the 12 apostates, but the
least trustworthy.
Just the opposite, according to the Gnostic Gospel:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Judas
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
DGT was producing steam, not 212 water.
They were producing a little steam because there was no water flowing into
the cell.
The change of state energy from water to steam was not reflected in the
COP calculations. Yes this is inaccurate, but gross under
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
The level of competence needed to verify the claimed error is not much
higher than of a plumber.
Not higher at all. Any plumber on earth could have verified it in 10
minutes. That is exactly what plumbers do when they test boilers. You can
see that in
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The right word might be crimination. I don't believe that I am meeting the
spirit of Jed's responces as follows:
1. to charge with a crime.
2. to incriminate.
3. to censure (something) as criminal: condemn
Franco Cappiello implied they are criminals, or
I wrote:
I heard from Mike Nelson today, and confirmed that is what it was. More
extensive tests were needed. DE finally did these extensive tests, and now
we know the facts.
I mean that Mike Nelson said More extensive tests were needed.
Lewan described Nelson's report:
The report was
Maybe DGT made a mistake with a hose!
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Many people here feel bad that they were taken in by Defkalion. For
example, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I vividly recall the forum BS. Many questions were asked concerning module
testing which they insisted was happening within their lab. Looking back
now I realize that they
I am going to upload Gamberale's report to LENR-CANR.org. I will add a news
item about Lewan's book and this report.
- Jed
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
I called Alexander Xanthoulis and asked for a comment. He didn’t dispute
the result of the report but pointed out that the calorimetric set-up at
the Milan demo was not made by Defkalion but by Mose. Gamberale confirmed
Human nature demands that you believe the guy who states exactly what you
want to believe.
Gamberale gives Jed a warm feeling.
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
I called
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