Report from day 1 of the ECat Convention in Zürich
Andrea Rossi
presented a report by „independent parties („professors of
universities and „engineers from military environments), signed by
nuclear engineer Fabio Penon. All parties that participated in the
report are still operating to
The name is Fulvio Fabiani, not Flavio Fabiani
Am 09.09.2012
10:02, schrieb h...@haikolietz.de:
Report from day 1 of the ECat
Convention in Zürich
Andrea Rossi presented a report by
„independent parties („professors of universities and „engineers from
military environments), signed by
Thanks Haiko…
we much appreciate the time you took to post this report!
-Mark Iverson
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The name is Fulvio Fabiani, not Flavio Fabiani
Am 09.09.2012 10:02, schrieb h...@haikolietz.de:
Report from day 1 of the ECat
Thanks for the report! The situation is confusing.
- Jed
I think it's fairly simple actually. Mr Rossi has chosen to organize his
efforts as a commercial enterprise, rather than as a scientific enterprise.
Therefore, proof occurs when somebody can buy one, and the customer reports
that it works, even if just to some limited extent and with extensive
Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:
Scientific publication approach or commercial enterprise approach: choose
one.
Why choose one? They are not mutually exclusive. Mainstream companies
routinely publish information that meets scientific standards of
reliability, although details are often
“This report comes from two separated tests made on the 16th of July and
the 7th of August, made by the Certificator and professors from 2
Universities. We are under NDA with both, but I want to make very clear
that this is not a final report, because all the measurements have to be
repeated many
!
And I am dead serious about that!
Come out of our argumentative cave and I kill You in an instant, if You dare.
Guenter
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On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:
Scientific publication approach or commercial enterprise approach: choose
one.
Why choose one? They are not mutually exclusive. Mainstream companies
routinely
I've followed most of the conference remotely as well.
Mixed observations in addition to what Guenter already posted here:
- rossi now says Ni conversion to Cu is a tiny side effect, when responding
to a public question on Helium production. So what about the ash that he
allowed a Swedish
On 2012-09-09 21:12, Teslaalset wrote:
- prometeon, the Italian licensee/distributer, mentioned cooperation
with Siemens in a public presentation
Here (slide 2):
http://www.22passi.it/Presentazione_Prometeon_Zurigo_8_settembre_2012.pdf
Source:
Rossi report : the temperature of the outside cylinder is reported to be at
871C max, 820C average.
Shouldn't it be glowing cherry red?
http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/wiki/Temperature_when_metal_glows_red/
C F Color
400 752 Red heat, visible in the dark
474 885 Red heat, visible in
On 2012-09-09 22:20, Alan Fletcher wrote:
Rossi report : the temperature of the outside cylinder is reported to be at
871C max, 820C average.
Shouldn't it be glowing cherry red?
Most digital photo cameras have filters against infrared lighting. This
might be the reason why it doesn't appear
The photo may have been taken part way through the test, rather than at
the end. The temp is gradually ramped up during the test
Nigel
On 09/09/2012 21:20, Alan Fletcher wrote:
Rossi report : the temperature of the outside cylinder is reported to be at
871C max, 820C average.
Shouldn't it
The Kullander report of the 6 month used ash stated that it contains 10%
Cu and 11% Fe. It is not clear by what analysis that assessment was made,
but it was likely EDAX (Energy Dispersive X-ray Spectral analysis),
normally made via SEM. Such analysis is a surface measurement. In the
case of
In this presentation, Rossi stated that Ni transmutation is not responsible
for extra heat. This is a secondary negligible phenomena and nearly most of
what is detected is due contamination.
2012/9/9 Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
The Kullander report of the 6 month used ash stated that
I believe, like many, that the transmutations seen are surface side-effects
of the LENR; and as Rossi now says, are not substantial contributors to the
excess heat effect. I don't believe that the Cu that Kullander measured
was contamination. My understanding was that the early e-cat reaction
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