Re: [Vo]:Events at the end of Jiang's run #2, Fig. 3

2016-03-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
H LV wrote: I think you interchanged T1 and T2. > Ah, you are right. T2 is inside the reactor in hydrogen gas. T1 is between the reactor cylinder and the heater ("DC power" shown in orange). For most of the test shown in Fig. 3, T1 (blue) is hotter than T2. Yesterday I

Re: [Vo]:Events at the end of Jiang's run #2, Fig. 3

2016-03-01 Thread Alain Sepeda
>From the exchanges it seems we miss some "metadata" associated with the curve. One thing that amazed me was pressure change, but if there is presurization by bottle, then there is no mystery. hot H2 and TC seems not to work together, even if Pr Songsheng reports documents that state

Re: [Vo]:Events at the end of Jiang's run #2, Fig. 3

2016-03-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
H LV wrote: I think you interchanged T1 and T2. > I do not think so, but you can check my work. Copy the original image out of the Chinese .pdf paper and paste it into a graphics program. It comes out in one chunk, easily. I am pretty sure that at that point, T2 is

Re: [Vo]:Events at the end of Jiang's run #2, Fig. 3

2016-03-01 Thread H LV
I think you interchanged T1 and T2. Harry On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I printed out the graph and measured the elapsed time between events toward > the end of the run, starting around hour 14:00. I measured some temperatures > on the right Y

Re: [Vo]:Events at the end of Jiang's run #2, Fig. 3

2016-03-01 Thread Bob Higgins
The events leading up to the excess heat are also significant. Apparently in the heat treatment phase the H2 pressure was topped up with a tank to 500kPa and it stayed there a while. Then the pressure began to fall gradually to 300kPa where, at about 14:15, the pressure was topped up again to

[Vo]:Events at the end of Jiang's run #2, Fig. 3

2016-03-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Let me send this message again, with a very small copy of the image attached. I wrote: > Minute 41. T2 begins falling much faster. > This is a little hard to see. Look carefully. The slope of T2 changes a lot. At face value, that does indicate there is a source of heat in the cell which cuts

Re: [Vo]:Events at the end of Jiang's run #2, Fig. 3

2016-03-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > Minute 41. T2 begins falling much faster. > This is a little hard to see. Look carefully. The slope of T2 changes a lot. At face value, that does indicate there is a source of heat in the cell which cuts off when the slope increases. I am not saying this is definitive. Let me

RE: [Vo]:Events at the end of Jiang's run #2, Fig. 3

2016-03-01 Thread Russ George
presented can certainly not make anything clear, save to reveal a path to repeat with improved design and methods. From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 11:47 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Events at the end of Jiang's run #2, Fig. 3 I printed

[Vo]:Events at the end of Jiang's run #2, Fig. 3

2016-03-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
I printed out the graph and measured the elapsed time between events toward the end of the run, starting around hour 14:00. I measured some temperatures on the right Y axis. I assume T2 and T4 are correct. I do not trust T1. Times are approximate: Minute 0. T1 and T2 begin rising. T4 stable.