Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-24 Thread David Roberson
of this system. Dave -Original Message- From: Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Mar 24, 2014 1:04 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor The link to the Hurricane balls slow motion movie is also interesting. The two fused balls start

Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-23 Thread Bob Cook
the issue with loss of energy via stirring the air around the rotating balls. Bob - Original Message - From: H Veeder To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:47 AM

RE: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-23 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Cook I think I have a good science fair project for a grandson. A little high tech monitoring equipment is all that is necessary. Maybe NI would be interested in loaning the instruments. A transient change in the temperature of the ball and the surface upon which they spin would

Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-23 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- I have just established a separate Vortex-1 file for possible science fair projects. Thanks, Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 8:51 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor From

Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-23 Thread H Veeder
be warranted to eliminate the issue with loss of energy via stirring the air around the rotating balls. Bob - Original Message - *From:* H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 22, 2014 10:56 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR

Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-23 Thread Bob Cook
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Harry and Jones-- You two do what I would call out of the box thinking on this issue--I wonder where Axil is. More thoughts: 1. There have been two

Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-22 Thread H Veeder
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: *From:* H Veeder ...two steel ball bearings welded together ... are a metaphorical cooper-pair, so to speak... raising another weird question: is there something about spherical-pairing alone, which is special - at

RE:[Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-21 Thread Roarty, Francis X
[mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 11:21 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor The continuing reports (on various alternative energy sites) about RAR having recently demonstrated overunity in Brazil, are provocative

RE: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-21 Thread Jones Beene
From: H Veeder .two steel ball bearings welded together . are a metaphorical cooper-pair, so to speak... raising another weird question: is there something about spherical-pairing alone, which is special - at any level? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvq8laPb498 Nice.. two magnetic balls

Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-21 Thread Bob Cook
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor From: H Veeder .two steel ball bearings welded together . are a metaphorical cooper-pair, so to speak... raising another weird question: is there something about spherical-pairing alone, which is special - at any level? http

RE: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-21 Thread Jones Beene
While on the subject of high-Q coupling, trihydrogen should be mentioned. The trihydrogen cation - [H3+] is one of the most abundant ions in the universe, far more abundant than H2, since it is stable in the interstellar medium. Therefore, due to its natural stability in extreme circumstance -

Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-21 Thread Edmund Storms
-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 6:47 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor From: H Veeder …two steel ball bearings welded together … are a metaphorical cooper-pair, so to speak... raising another weird question: is there something about spherical-pairing

Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-21 Thread Bob Cook
, RAR and high-Q factor While on the subject of high-Q coupling, trihydrogen should be mentioned. The trihydrogen cation - [H3+] is one of the most abundant ions in the universe, far more abundant than H2, since it is stable in the interstellar medium. Therefore, due to its natural

RE: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-21 Thread Jones Beene
From: Edmund Storms When LENR occurs in a lattice, all the protons, deuterons and electrons are innerconnected. They all are restrained in their motion by forces that hold the lattice together. What you say is true, Ed - but essentially irrelevant. You did not read the premise - at

Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-21 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: The continuing reports (on various alternative energy sites) about RAR having recently demonstrated overunity in Brazil, are provocative... but nothing more than rumor. Should we wait to explore the ramifications of

RE: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-21 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Cook What about D3+ cation? Pauli is not working in this case--the D is integral spin in an excited state. However, Ed's chemistry would be the same . Yes. Nothing in the previous thread applies to deuterium or to Pd-D. The physics of protons is so completely different

Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-21 Thread Edmund Storms
On Mar 21, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Jones Beene wrote: From: Edmund Storms When LENR occurs in a lattice, all the protons, deuterons and electrons are innerconnected. They all are restrained in their motion by forces that hold the lattice together. What you say is true, Ed - but

Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-21 Thread Bob Cook
- Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 9:19 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor From: Bob Cook What about D3+ cation? Pauli is not working in this case--the D is integral spin in an excited state

Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-21 Thread Bob Cook
balls, RAR and high-Q factor From: Bob Cook What about D3+ cation? Pauli is not working in this case--the D is integral spin in an excited state. However, Ed's chemistry would be the same . Yes. Nothing in the previous thread applies to deuterium or to Pd-D

[Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-20 Thread Jones Beene
The continuing reports (on various alternative energy sites) about RAR having recently demonstrated overunity in Brazil, are provocative... but nothing more than rumor. Should we wait to explore the ramifications of perpmo - until it is fact? Nah. Why wait? It was always obvious to the contrarian

Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-20 Thread H Veeder
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: The continuing reports (on various alternative energy sites) about RAR having recently demonstrated overunity in Brazil, are provocative... but nothing more than rumor. Should we wait to explore the ramifications of