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2012-01-21 Thread John Milstone
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:34:07, thorium breeder said:  Can rossi achieve do it yourself isotopic separation? That ties in to the missing detailed isotopic analysis that Sven Kullander promised before Christmas. I've been trying to find prices for specific Nickel isotopes, and no one seems to be

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2012-01-21 Thread Daniel Rocha
He meant that only 62 and 64 transmutes. So, he maximizes their quantity to increase the energy density. 2012/1/21 John Milstone john_sw_orla...@yahoo.com On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:34:07, thorium breeder said: Can rossi achieve do it yourself isotopic separation? That ties in to the missing

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2012-01-21 Thread Robert Lynn
Rossi is a dodgy character, but that does not mean that it isn't working. There are a lot of others out there with Impeccable professional scientific reputations who are getting high-level outputs from similar Ni-H systems. Eg Brillioun Energy reported 2x gain in February last year at relatively

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2012-01-21 Thread Jones Beene
Good point Robert, and let me leave this for Milstone. You might fool some of these guys on occasion, but not all of them for many hours as to the main contention - that there is/was a bona fide thermal anomaly (when the P-in became negligible). They were invited for a number of reasons

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2012-01-21 Thread John Milstone
21, 2012 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:I`ll just leave this here He meant that only 62 and 64 transmutes. So, he maximizes their quantity to increase the energy density. 

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2012-01-21 Thread John Milstone
.   AFAIK, no one has found one shred of evidence that this man exists. From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:I`ll just leave this here Good point Robert, and let me leave

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2012-01-21 Thread John Milstone
, 2012 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:I`ll just leave this here Rossi is a dodgy character, but that does not mean that it isn't working. There are a lot of others out there with Impeccable professional scientific reputations who are getting high-level outputs from similar Ni-H systems. Eg Brillioun

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2012-01-21 Thread Daniel Rocha
*Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:42 AM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:I`ll just leave this here He meant that only 62 and 64 transmutes. So, he maximizes their quantity to increase the energy density. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

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2012-01-21 Thread Daniel Rocha
. From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:I`ll just leave this here Good point Robert, and let me leave this for Milstone. You might fool some of these guys on occasion, but not all of them for many

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2012-01-21 Thread John Milstone
convince the nay-sayers. From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com To: John Milstone vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:I`ll just leave this here Just Levi and the AP reporter, which were the only ones that were present

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2012-01-21 Thread Daniel Rocha
convince the nay-sayers. -- *From:* Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com *To:* John Milstone vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2012 10:44 AM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:I`ll just leave this here Just Levi and the AP reporter, which were the only ones

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2012-01-21 Thread John Milstone
! From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com To: John Milstone vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:I`ll just leave this here In the specific case of Rossi, he wants to exclude nickel below 62, but purity is not a necessity, but an optimazation. So, if he

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2012-01-21 Thread Jones Beene
From: John Milstone * Even if legitimate researchers are seeing interesting results, that doesn't necessarily mean that Rossi is legit. No, but the blind skepticism and often silly remarks of Milstone, Yugo and Cude do not mean anything at all. They have demonstrated no

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2012-01-21 Thread Daniel Rocha
, and try to buy Uranium-235 on Craigslist, the NSA calls your Mother! -- *From:* Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com *To:* John Milstone vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2012 10:40 AM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:I`ll just leave this here In the specific

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2012-01-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Rossi may have been premature and sloppy in testing, but Ni-H is “the next big thing” in the World Economy. Rossi has demonstrated that the Thermacore results of the early nineties, validated by NASA in 1996, were the biggest missed opportunity in all

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2012-01-21 Thread thorium breeder
I would like to thank everyone for the response and ask a few more questions if I may. Don`t even tankless water heaters explode everyday in America? Has any one seen a water heater explode? Does the rossi water heater contain toxic nickel nano particles? Can we put his fraud behind us and

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2012-01-21 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jed Rothwell * Yes but . . . It wasn't exactly missed. As I pointed out, Srinivasan and other devoted a lot of effort to this system. It isn't their fault they failed. They did not overlook it in any sense; they were unable to replicate. Yes but as I pointed out thereafter - they

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2012-01-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
thorium breeder thorium.bree...@gmail.com wrote: Don`t even tankless water heaters explode everyday in America? Tankless heater are rare, but anyway, see: http://www.nationalboard.org/SiteDocuments/E-Publications/nb_235.pdf Since 1990, there have been more than 30,000 boiler and pressure

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2012-01-21 Thread Axil Axil
*Does the rossi water heater contain toxic nickel nano particles?* ** I don’t think so. The nickel is granulated in the micro size range. The negative biological activity of nickel particles in this size range may not be harmful. *Can we put his fraud behind us and focus on nuclear contamination

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2012-01-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Yes but as I pointed out thereafter - they did not fail and their report says they did not fail, got significant overunity and wanted to continue - Naturally they wanted to continue, especially in view of their success with Arata and Case, and with

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2012-01-21 Thread John Milstone
: Saturday, January 21, 2012 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:I`ll just leave this here Anyone can produce transmutation in their own home by electric arching pure carbon electrodes and pure water; and transmutation occurs in certain living systems.

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2012-01-21 Thread Axil Axil
to produce the kilogram quantities, for pennies a gram, that Rossi would require? -- *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2012 1:02 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:I`ll just leave this here Anyone can produce

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2012-01-21 Thread Mary Yugo
Another issue with Rossi's claim of isotope enrichment is how he accomplishes it. He's never commented on that though he was asked. Where is his plant for the enrichment? What technology does he use? Can he afford a farm of gas centrifuges? A high intensity laser setup? Who runs it?

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2012-01-21 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 12:32 PM, thorium breeder thorium.bree...@gmail.com wrote: Has any one seen a water heater explode? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rXwcDkobUY T

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2012-01-21 Thread Daniel Rocha
You don't need to do a great effort to enrich to a few percent an element with an isotope variation of 10% of mass from the less stable to the most stable isotope. This is not like uranium enrichment. 2012/1/21 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com Another issue with Rossi's claim of isotope enrichment

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2012-01-21 Thread Axil Axil
danieldi...@gmail.com *To:* John Milstone vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2012 10:40 AM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:I`ll just leave this here In the specific case of Rossi, he wants to exclude nickel below 62, but purity is not a necessity, but an optimazation. So, if he roughly

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2012-01-21 Thread Daniel Rocha
on Craigslist, the NSA calls your Mother! -- *From:* Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com *To:* John Milstone vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2012 10:40 AM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:I`ll just leave this here In the specific case of Rossi, he wants

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2012-01-21 Thread thorium breeder
I speculate that the cross section of proton tunneling into nickel is increased with the proportion of heavy neutron rich nickel isotopes. It’s a probability thing. Reaction performance is increased in the neutron rich heavy nickel isotopes, but the reaction still occurs in light nickel

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2012-01-21 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote: You don't need to do a great effort to enrich to a few percent an element with an isotope variation of 10% of mass from the less stable to the most stable isotope. This is not like uranium enrichment. I am not

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2012-01-21 Thread Axil Axil
See my post on the Soret effect and Thermophoresis. On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote: You don't need to do a great effort to enrich to a few percent an element with an isotope

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2012-01-21 Thread Axil Axil
The neutron based ENDF cross sections you are familiar with is not applicable to proton pair entanglement based tunneling. This is a new area of nuclear physics and quantum mechanics that is just being explored. Tragically, the technology and attitudes currently vitrified in nuclear physics will

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2012-01-21 Thread thorium breeder
Mister Rothwell I do appreciate your response as an expert in cold fusion. Could you clarify the nuclear cycle taking place? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNO_cycle Has anyone given the fuel cycle data to the real fusor guys at fusor.net? http://www.fusor.net/board/index.php?site=fusor If

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2012-01-21 Thread thorium breeder
On 1/21/12, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The neutron based ENDF cross sections you are familiar with is not applicable to proton pair entanglement based tunneling. This is a new area of nuclear physics and quantum mechanics that is just being explored. do you mean to tell me that in

[Vo]:I`ll just leave this here

2012-01-20 Thread thorium breeder
I ask the wisdom of the crowd for a sanity check. Can rossi achieve do it yourself isotopic separation? Can a nickel carbonyl reflux column achieve isotopic separation? Is a centrifuge also required or just a vortex tube? Is the isotope refining more controversial than LENR? Does one get the

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2012-01-20 Thread Phil Wilson
On 21/01/2012 5:03 PM, thorium breeder wrote: Is the rossi heater multi-level marketing in the digital age? You just got a hole in one.

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2012-01-20 Thread Shaun Taylor
On 21/01/2012 5:12 PM, Phil Wilson wrote: On 21/01/2012 5:03 PM, thorium breeder wrote: Is the rossi heater multi-level marketing in the digital age? You just got a hole in one. You got that right. Wonder what happens when the E-Cat hits 451 deg F? Bury baby burn? Bring it on! Shaun

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2012-01-20 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:33 PM, thorium breeder thorium.bree...@gmail.com wrote: I ask the wisdom of the crowd for a sanity check. Can rossi achieve do it yourself isotopic separation? One of the more far out of Rossi's claims, made clearly and at least twice in his misnamed blog (JONP),

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2012-01-20 Thread Shaun Taylor
On 21/01/2012 5:46 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:33 PM, thorium breeder thorium.bree...@gmail.com mailto:thorium.bree...@gmail.com wrote: I ask the wisdom of the crowd for a sanity check. Can rossi achieve do it yourself isotopic separation? One of the more far out