Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick?

2016-03-06 Thread Axil Axil
en as a nominal presence near >>>>> background that can suddenly be made ‘visible’ to detectors where millirem >>>>> signals turn into kilorem! (micro-Sieverts to Sieverts if you prefer) >>>>> Fortunately the human body is more akin to our normal detectors than

Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick?

2016-03-06 Thread Axil Axil
and still very poorly observed to >>>> say nothing of described radiations is far from clear. More than a few cold >>>> fusion scientists have succumbed already. As is said in ancient texts ‘one >>>> does not catch the unknown in a net of the known.’ >>>

Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick?

2016-03-06 Thread Axil Axil
e better cold fusion cooks are sure to see the >>> most exposure and the nature of this new and still very poorly observed to >>> say nothing of described radiations is far from clear. More than a few cold >>> fusion scientists have succumbed already. As is

Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick?

2016-03-06 Thread John Berry
unknown in a net of the known.’ >> >> >> >> *From:* alain.coetm...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Alain Sepeda >> *Sent:* Friday, March 4, 2016 12:13 AM >> *To:* Vortex List >> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Is

Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick?

2016-03-06 Thread Mats Lewan
cold fusion >> scientists have succumbed already. As is said in ancient texts ‘one does not >> catch the unknown in a net of the known.’ >> >> >> >> From: alain.coetm...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com] On Behalf >> Of Alain Sepeda >&g

Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick?

2016-03-04 Thread Axil Axil
h 4, 2016 10:14 AM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick? > > > > Hell, we've got thousands of birds, fish, bats, bees, butterflies, coral > polyps, sea stars, sea lions dropping dead around us and very few > people seem to give a shit... > &

RE: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick?

2016-03-04 Thread Russ George
[mailto:cheme...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 10:14 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick? Hell, we've got thousands of birds, fish, bats, bees, butterflies, coral polyps, sea stars, sea lions dropping dead around us and very few people seem to give a shit... On Friday

Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick?

2016-03-04 Thread ChemE Stewart
> [mailto: >> alain.coetm...@gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','alain.coetm...@gmail.com');>] *On Behalf >> Of *Alain Sepeda >> *Sent:* Friday, March 4, 2016 12:13 AM >> *To:* Vortex List >> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick? >> >>

Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick?

2016-03-04 Thread Alain Sepeda
he unknown in a net of the known.’ > > > > *From:* alain.coetm...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com] *On > Behalf Of *Alain Sepeda > *Sent:* Friday, March 4, 2016 12:13 AM > *To:* Vortex List > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick? > > > > the dose, and t

Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick?

2016-03-04 Thread Axil Axil
...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com] *On > Behalf Of *Alain Sepeda > *Sent:* Friday, March 4, 2016 12:13 AM > *To:* Vortex List > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick? > > > > the dose, and the speed of dose to make someone sick is huge and canbe > detected. > >

Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick?

2016-03-04 Thread Bob Higgins
I think at least an equal concern to radiation exposure is the incidental exposure to vented nickel tetracarbonyl vapor. I believe this can cause pulmonary distress at quite low concentrations. The tolerance for nickel tetracarbonyl may be quite low. The nickel tetracarbonyl can come from

RE: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick?

2016-03-04 Thread Russ George
scientists have succumbed already. As is said in ancient texts ‘one does not catch the unknown in a net of the known.’ From: alain.coetm...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Alain Sepeda Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 12:13 AM To: Vortex List Subject: Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick

Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick?

2016-03-04 Thread Alain Sepeda
To match with the problem of radiation accidents, the biggest cause of trouble in Chernobyl and in Fukushima is the terrible impact of stress. Andrea Rossi, like many of us, may just be tired, stressed, by fear, by enthusiasm, by challenges and stakes, by internal conflicts, by technical

Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick?

2016-03-04 Thread a.ashfield
Alain Sepeda. Agreed. Reminds of the media scare about people living near nuclear power plants getting cancer. Ignoring that the workers IN the power plants didn't. However well intentioned, comment's like Axil's get picked up and used by opponents of change. I much doubt Rossi would be

Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick?

2016-03-04 Thread Alain Sepeda
the dose, and the speed of dose to make someone sick is huge and canbe detected. This is what people name "deterministic effect" in radioprotection. This is above 700mSv as fast dose there is also undeterministic effect, typically cancer, whose severity is independent of the dose, but which are

Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick?

2016-03-03 Thread Rich Murray
Experimenters may keep some small plants, animals, and bacteria cultures adjacent to tests, and monitor them daily, including generations of offspring, for biology and especially behavior... They might even respond within seconds to transient events -- small dogs? Also, many families have members

[Vo]:Is Rossi sick?

2016-03-03 Thread Axil Axil
Rossi is complaining about a 'failure to thrive' condition such as losing weight without reason. We might consider that a primary symptom of chronic radiation exposure is unexplained weight loss. Andrea Rossi March 3, 2016 at 9:07 PM Jed Orwell: I continue to lose weight and we do not understand