On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
-- are intended as plug-in replacements for
new or existing commercial heating systems, which also operate in the
1300-1400C range.
Huge market.
Great observation. Huge market and easy to sell. It puts out four
times
Having looked at the Robert Greenyer video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyp14fnE1jQ and his observation of the wavy
nature of a commercial heater and the Lugana hotcat :
http://lenr.qumbu.com/web_hotcat_pics/141030_blackbody_04.png
Greenyer notes the wavy structure of an electric heating
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Only the shadow hypothesis requires the ceramic to be visually
transparent -- the other two just could depend on thermal conductivity.
The shadow hypothesis has always seemed like a stretch to me. It sounds
speculative.
Eric
From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:20:52 PM
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Basically what happens is that as the temperature changes the peak of the
blackbody spectrum moves through different parts of the
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From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:20:52 PM
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote
with positive
thermal feedback. A passive system would not display this behavior.
Dave
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*From: *Eric Walker
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
This last post is a wonderful one. The way the E-Cat produces and then
radiates energy is a complete unknown and there is a absolute and
uncompromising need in this unique situation to calibrate the temperature
sensor used in
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
It's not difficult to sell furnace heating elements which provide 4.6
watts of output for one watt of input.
As an entry point into industry, it is a little obscure, and one that the
accountants paying the electricity
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:57:38 PM
My analysis of IR calorimetry and Black Body radiation is here :
http://lenr.qumbu.com/blackbody_141027A.php
Slightly updated.
I used my blackbody calculator to derive an emissivity/temperature curve
similar to Lugano fig 2.
I swept the
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Basically what happens is that as the temperature changes the peak of the
blackbody spectrum moves through different parts of the
emissivity/wavelength curve.
Are you assuming a standard Boltzmann curve that just shifts its
to less error in these important calculations. It is
unfortunate that the latest version remains so difficult to verify.
Dave
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Sent: Sun, Oct 26, 2014 11:55 am
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Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Nobody really knows how the E-Cat radiates energy.
It radiates heat energy according to the Stefan-Boltzmann law, like any
other object. The source of the heat is irrelevant. All hot objects radiate
heat the same way, and they all turn the same incandescent
On 10/27/2014 03:08 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
All hot objects radiate heat the same way, and they all turn the same
incandescent color at a given temperature.
Everything I read tells me this is modified by a materials 'emissivity'
factor.
The amount of thermal energy an object will radiate is
I believe that the E-Cat is completely enclosed in a high temperature boson
condensate. How that condensate might radiate energy is UNKNOWN. This
condensate could be releasing energy at a single IR frequency like a
laser might. The test team should have run a spectrum analysis on this
reactor's
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:08:08 PM
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Nobody really knows how the E-Cat radiates energy.
It radiates heat energy according to the Stefan-Boltzmann law, like any other
object. The source of the heat is
by an emissivity 1.
IMHO your generalization stated below is incorrect.
Bob Cook
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Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:08 PM
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Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
My analysis of IR calorimetry and Black Body radiation is here :
http://lenr.qumbu.com/blackbody_141027A.php
I was persuaded by McKubre and Docherty not to downgrade my results to failed
experiment.
I've also updated my banding paper :
We cannot even assume that it follows the laws of physics?
***A law is just a mathematically rigorous observation. It is not a
dictate from nature. LENR is a field of study precisely because the
laws of physics are being broken. It's as if you took some bricks
and dropped them from the leaning
What is new in LENR is how high power magnetic force interacts with the
vacuum, nuclear matter, and associated orbital electrons.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
We cannot even assume that it follows the laws of physics?
***A law is just a
I read the report you linked to. Their main argument is that CCDs
response at the temperature the ecat is operating at has a low
reaction curve, i.e. the reaction to temperature change flattens out
so it's harder to get an accurate reading with a change in
temperature. The method that
As to whether a spot pyrometer is more accurate than an IR camera, I
think depends on their use. For small area or pin point measurement I
agree that a spot pyrometer may be more accurate, but for large or
gross measurement I think the IR camera would be just as accurate if
not more so. I
Use both as a cross check.
harry
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Robert Dorr rod...@comcast.net wrote:
As to whether a spot pyrometer is more accurate than an IR camera, I think
depends on their use. For small area or pin point measurement I agree that
a spot pyrometer may be more
. It is unfortunate that the latest
version remains so difficult to verify.
Dave
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To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 26, 2014 11:55 am
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Use both as a cross check
From: Robert Dorr rod...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 5:51:57 PM
If you measured at 2.5u you would be dealing with IR directly emitted from the
interior of the hot cat because at that wavelength the alumina would be
somewhat transparent to IR. Measuring at the wavelengths they
Hank Mills transcript :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz7lTfqkED9WNDVQVEhmUjJ4ek0/view
But it's still not clear whether they should use 8-14u or 2.5u
In any case, their spot pyrometer is most likely more accurate.
MFMP interviews a spokesman for the company Williamson which specializes in
non-contact temperature measurement. They discuss the problem of measuring
the temperature of Alumina at higher temperatures.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3O3bSu6N7vwcDJUWGl1Y0pmTWs/edit?pli=1
(15 min. audio only must
Worth listening to, but they were talking at cross-purposes at times.
3-way complication between reflectance, emission and transmission. Said that
wires could cause shadows. (But not, by my analysis from a diffuse source.
unless the wire is very close to the surface).
Their system can be
If you measured at 2.5u you would be dealing with IR directly emitted
from the interior of the hot cat because at that wavelength the
alumina would be somewhat transparent to IR. Measuring at the
wavelengths they did the IR cameras were only reading the surface
temperature because of
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