So Ni micropowder mixed with a dielectric micropowder, hydrogen and argon
mixture under elevated pressure and temperature and a Champion spark plug...
I think i saw a big old ground wire connected to the reactor to prevent a
shocking discovery
On Monday, January 30, 2012, Axil Axil
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
So Ni micropowder mixed with a dielectric micropowder, hydrogen and argon
mixture under elevated pressure and temperature and a Champion spark plug...
Plus, possibly, potassium. (And alliteration and assonance.)
T
This thread on isotopic enrichment of nickel, from a couple of weeks ago, is
being revived in light of the recent mention from DGT that they are still
trying different catalysts .
. which is about as close to an admission that they do not really know
Rossi's secret, as we will get at this
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
This thread on isotopic enrichment of nickel, from a couple of weeks
ago, is being revived in light of the recent mention from DGT that they are
still “trying different catalysts” …
** **
… which is about as
Jones,
There was some conjecture that even sputtering can accomplish a crude form of
enrichment.
Fran
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 11:39 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
This thread on isotopic enrichment
Well, I sent the following inquires, I just found 1 lab. If you want to
help me:
Please,
I would like to know the prices of enriched Nickel 62 and Nickel 64 to 20%
and 50% purity.
If possible, I would like to know how the costs of a mixture of Ni 62 and
64 at 20% and 50% purity, at natural
Jones,
if they don't know Rossis catalyst - why do they allow independent
parties to test the reactor? They seem to be pretty sure about what they
are doing.
Perhaps they are just trying to optimize the reaction?
Wolf
This thread on isotopic enrichment of nickel, from a couple of weeks
maybe the problem is not reaction efficiency.
it seems they have a working reactor, with a COP 20 as they propose to
check in the test.
(assuming they are normal serious business they won't lie. and their
communication looks that they prefer to silent than to lie)
and it seem celani recently
From: Roarty, Francis X
*
* There was some conjecture that even sputtering can accomplish a
crude form of enrichment.
I can't see nickel sputtering making a significant difference in enrichment
at all. Is there any real evidence?
Even a faction of a percent gain is doubtful from
It extremely unlikely that Ni enrichment is being employed, regardless of
Rossi's claims. Even without knowledge of the mechanism for LENR how would
a hydrogen atom ever know if it was interacting with Ni 62 or Ni 64? The
coulomb barrier is identical for both.
But assuming that only one Ni
Wolf - How can you say that DGT is sure - when they do not even have
calorimetry set up on any reactor ? That does not inspire confidence that
they are as far along as we had thought.
If they simply used the Thermacore formula of 1993, except for going to nano
nickel - then they would show
effect :
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg47143.html
Fran
_
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:01 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
From: Roarty
From: Roarty, Francis X
* There was some conjecture that even sputtering can accomplish a
crude form of enrichment.
I can't see nickel sputtering making a significant difference in enrichment
at all. Is there any real evidence?
Jones, The discussion was regarding the Soret effect :
Two problems with that assessment, Robert.
First, look at fission reactors as metaphor. 235U is found in a similar
ratio to 64Ni in the natural metal (slightly less), and yet a fission
reactor using natural U will not work reliably over time, without heavy
water - or unless the U has been
...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:42 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
From: Roarty, Francis X
*
There was some conjecture that even sputtering can accomplish a crude form of
enrichment.
I can't see nickel sputtering making a significant
Ni62 and Ni64 enrichment is an assumption. I will now be pleased to offer
another possible reason for a catalyst change.
My theory of operation regarding the Rossi reaction indicates that the job
of the catalyst is to produce Rydberg atoms so that they can be used as
feedstock in the production
shauntaylor...@gmail.com wrote:
*From:* Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2012 8:46 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
Shaun Taylor shauntaylor...@gmail.com
mailto:shauntaylor...@gmail.com wrote:
Rossi lied about the BBB being shipped
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
There was never any hard evidence it had been moved. Terry ( I think)
remarked on voretx a day or so after the test that a tractor trailer
drove off with it as if someone witnessed the departure, but he was
really just
ahh thanks for that reminder!
So in a sense I added to the lie. Sorry folks.
Harry
(Damn that talking dog!)
harry
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
There was never any hard
As mentioned in prior posting - Ni-64 costs about $3 per gram from a
medical supplier. We checked the ones near Rossi's former lab in NH and no
one remembers him or the name Leonardo (LTI, or EON). The reason for
checking was to see if Rossi started out this way first before finding a
less
You are giving the number for a high purity isotope, like 99.99%. In other
thread, I was talking about an extremely dirty mixture of Ni62+Ni64 and a
bunch of other isotopes, no problem if it is 50% of other stuff.
2012/1/21 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
As mentioned in prior posting - Ni-64
Subject: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
As mentioned in prior posting - Ni-64 costs about $3 per gram from a
medical supplier. We checked the ones near Rossi's former lab in NH and no
one remembers him or the name Leonardo (LTI, or EON). The reason for
checking was to see if Rossi started out this way
think he found a much better money maker than selling E-Cats.
From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
You are giving the number for a high purity isotope, like
:* Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2012 12:44 PM
*Subject:* [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
As mentioned in prior posting - Ni-64 costs about $3 per gram from a
medical supplier. We checked the ones near Rossi's former lab in NH and no
one
be available before Christmas.
--
*From:* Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2012 12:44 PM
*Subject:* [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
As mentioned in prior posting - Ni-64 costs about $3 per gram from a
medical
selling E-Cats.
--
*From:* Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2012 12:47 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
You are giving the number for a high purity isotope, like 99.99%. In other
thread, I
Milstone vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
You mean Cu 65 and Cu63. That's the ash.
2012/1/21 John Milstone john_sw_orla...@yahoo.com
Thanks for reposting that information.
So, if the fuel or ash from an E-Cat contained excess 64-Ni
Yes, we need to know four things from Sweden: the ratio of Ni isotopes in
both the fuel and ash, and the ratio of copper isotopes in both the fuel and
ash. That will tell volumes, when compared to natural ratios.
If the copper in the ash is natural isotopic ratio - as I suspect, then that
an
achievement!
--
*From:* Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
*To:* John Milstone vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2012 1:19 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
You mean Cu 65 and Cu63. That's the ash.
2012/1/21 John Milstone john_sw_orla
From: John Milstone
* Reducing the cost of a gram of 64Ni from $30,000 to $0.04 is quite an
achievement!
As Daniel implies, that is not the correct comparison.
It could easily be the case that Rossi has found that nickel with ~10% 64Ni
and ~15% 62Ni works well, and that this
I think this is the crucial step, really, if Rossi claims are somehow to be
believed. Taking your figures to Celani's experiment, he would get peaks of
hundreds of watts and piantelli in the same range of Rossi, that is, around
thousands of watts.
2012/1/21 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
There is only one cheap method to separate or enrich significantly the Ni
isotopes: by persuasion, convincing them to separate.
Rossi is sometimes, rarely telling things that are not true. But are
interesting, beyond any doubt.
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
I don't really see the reason why not enriching Ni62 - Ni64 to 20% would be
very expensive.That's a purity level 500-5000 lower than those that leave
only one isotope pure.
2012/1/21 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
There is only one cheap method to separate or enrich significantly the Ni
.
From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
To: John Milstone vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
Why to 0.04$? To 100$ would be a great thing too.
that is within several orders of
magnitude of what Rossi *must* have, if he's really selling 100g of fuel for
$10.
From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
I don't really
The most interesting set of facts that can come out of the Swedish analysis
(if we the public do get to see the report) is IF the fuel is enriched in
64Ni but the copper in the ash is natural ratio.
That will essentially mean that some kind of non-transmutation reaction is
occurring but with
really selling 100g of
fuel for $10.
--
*From:* Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2012 2:18 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
I don't really see the reason why not enriching Ni62 - Ni64 to 20% would
Milstone vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
What Rossi does cannot be done with heavier radioactive elements. Their weight
difference is too small. Nickel is one of the elements with the highest range
of stable isotopes.
greatly enriched from their natural isotope ratios.
--
*From:* Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
*To:* John Milstone vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2012 2:31 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
What Rossi does cannot be done with heavier
From: John Milstone
* I have yet to hear of any enrichment method that is within several
orders of magnitude of what Rossi *must* have, if he's really selling 100g
of fuel for $10.
Then why even attempt to believe it?
Yes that one is absolutely false beyond any reasonable doubt - and
, January 21, 2012 2:45 PM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
From: John Milstone
* I have yet to hear of any enrichment method that is within several
orders of magnitude of what Rossi *must* have, if he's really selling 100g
of fuel for $10.
Then why even attempt to believe it?
Yes
I continue to be reminded of a (Isaac Asimov?) science fiction story I
read as a child where a group of scientists are shown a film of what
they are told is an anti gravity machine, which takes off, flies a bit
then blows up. They are told that the inventer, the only person who
knew how it
blind faith.
--
*From:* Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2012 2:45 PM
*Subject:* RE: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
From: John Milstone
*I have yet to hear of any enrichment method that is within several
orders
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
As mentioned in prior posting - Ni-64 costs about $3 per gram from a
medical supplier. We checked the ones near Rossi's former lab in NH and no
one remembers him or the name Leonardo (LTI, or EON). The reason for
Ha! If that group of scientists had Defkalion in their name, then it would
be a fitting segue to another Sci-Fi story, no?
-Original Message-
From: Nigel Dyer
I continue to be reminded of a (Isaac Asimov?) science fiction story I
read as a child where a group of scientists are shown a
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk wrote:
I continue to be reminded of a (Isaac Asimov?) science fiction story I read
as a child where a group of scientists are shown a film of what they are
told is an anti gravity machine, which takes off, flies a bit then blows
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk wrote:
I continue to be reminded of a (Isaac Asimov?) science fiction story I read
as a child where a group of scientists are shown a film of what they are
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Found it!!! It was Raymond F. Jones, author of This Island Earth
and Forbidden Planet.
You know, of course, that Giuseppe Levi starred in the movie This
Island Earth.
T
attachment: levi.JPG
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
You know, of course, that Giuseppe Levi starred in the movie This
Island Earth.
He actually built an inteROSSitor to get the part.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interocitor
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047577/
T
, 2012 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
You know, of course, that Giuseppe Levi starred in the movie This
Island Earth.
He actually built an inteROSSitor to get the part.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interocitor
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 7:09 PM, John Milstone
john_sw_orla...@yahoo.com wrote:
Ew! We are all being PUNished.
Not all. Just you uninformed newbies. I originally published this in
April when we went over all things you are rehashing.
T
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 7:09 PM, John Milstone
john_sw_orla...@yahoo.com wrote:
Ew! We are all being PUNished.
Not all. Just you uninformed newbies. I originally published this in
April when we went over all
Terry sez:
You know, of course, that Giuseppe Levi starred in the movie This
Island Earth.
OMG!
The resemblance is striking.
What does this really mean!
Oh dear! Oh dear! Oh dear!
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 7:19 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
Oh dear! Oh dear! Oh dear!
All your BBBs are belong to us!
T
John Milstone john_sw_orla...@yahoo.com wrote:
So, you're saying that Jed Rothwell is wrong when he has stated repeatedly
that he has never caught Rossi lying about his work?
No, the Ni claims are not based on Rossi's own work, and they are mostly
theoretical. We discussed this at length. I
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk wrote:
I continue to be reminded of a (Isaac Asimov?) science fiction story I read
as a child where a group of scientists are shown a film of what they are
told is an anti gravity machine, which takes off, flies a bit then blows
On 22/01/2012 11:08 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
John Milstone john_sw_orla...@yahoo.com
mailto:john_sw_orla...@yahoo.com wrote:
So, you're saying that Jed Rothwell is wrong when he has stated
repeatedly that he has never caught Rossi lying about his work?
No, the Ni claims are not based
Shaun Taylor shauntaylor...@gmail.com wrote:
Rossi lied about the BBB being shipped to a secret customer.
He never told Lewan it shipped. Lewan knew it was in the workshop the whole
time. Rossi made no effort to cover this up. So if was a lie, it was
pointless, and not covered up. I would
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Ask Leonard Susskind.
Who he is:
http://fora.tv/2007/01/24/Cosmic_Landscape
T
On 22/01/2012 12:16 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Shaun Taylor shauntaylor...@gmail.com
mailto:shauntaylor...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh bullshit. He can't con other people's thermocouples, or replications
thousands of miles away from him, in labs he has never been to. He has
no supernatural powers.
Stop
.
John
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: John Milstone vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
John Milstone john_sw_orla...@yahoo.com wrote:
So, you're saying that Jed Rothwell is wrong
That might have some value if Lewan mentioned it *before* this issue blew up in
Rossi's face.
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
Shaun Taylor
*From:* Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2012 8:46 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
Shaun Taylor shauntaylor...@gmail.com
mailto:shauntaylor...@gmail.com wrote:
Rossi lied about the BBB being shipped to a secret customer.
He
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