Howdy Vorts,
The use of the word bailout is not descriptive of the intent of the
package of legislature that failed to win support in congress.
An analogy to the plan offered by Paulson is more like who get's a seat in
the lifeboat. Paulson suggests a 700 billion size lifeboat will handle all
Sure looks like hate speech to me. You sure you want these guys being
leaders of the free world?
I think the battle lines are clear; a battle between the good of freedom and
the evil, lying, socialist control.
When will they ever learn?
Cash for Trash
By Bill Bonner
Bankruptcy of
Excerpt from recent TIME article: Let Risk-Taking Financial Institutions Fail
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1845209,00.html?cnn=yes
The [currently proposed] bailout will involve a transfer of wealth —
from the American people to financial institutions engaging in
reckless
From Robin,
In reply to OrionWorks's message of Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:42:04 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
$41T does sound a little high. A colleague at work got out his
calculator and figured out that if you divided 40T by 400 million
Americans, that would amount to a debt load of approximately $100,000,
Actually, Bill Bonner shares your basic attitude toward government,
except he is a better writer and has researched the issue in depth..
Ed
On Sep 30, 2008, at 3:09 AM, Remi Cornwall wrote:
Sure looks like hate speech to me… You sure you want these guys
being leaders of the free world?
Mmmh, perhaps you should get him to research and write about CF.
_
From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 30 September 2008 14:58
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Actually, Bill Bonner shares your basic
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Maybe you despise Democrats Wilson and FDR for saving England's
butt in WWI and WWII?
Don't forget China's butt, too.
One might argue that England would have survived WWII even if the United
States hadn't directly entered the war, but it's hard to say that about
China,
Ron Wormus wrote:
Jones,
All true enough but big companies run on credit, and if they don't have
it, it's going to cause big problems in relatively short order. The
Depression, Japan's lost decade, the Russian currency crisis--all the
biggest drops in GDP were finance related. When the
Well, for those who are still interested, the market is recovering
nicely. However, while the stocks that are most at risk from the
immediate problems are going up, the stocks that are expected to
suffer from a recession are continuing downward. In other words, the
basic market does not
DJIA is up 232 points from the open, but it was down 750 points on Friday.
According to the WSJ,
Stocks staged a partial recovery Tuesday as investors hoped a revised
financial rescue plan will emerge.
In other words, the recovery, such as it has been so far, is apparently
(as far as folks
You may be right. However, the government is not the only source of
funds nor is the bailout the only money being supplied by the
government. The panic in the public was caused by an advertised
effort to get this huge source of money available so that the
financial companies would not
_
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Jed -
They should magically impose their will on the party if they honestly
believe it is good
Terry Blanton wrote:
Did you see the word 'forced' in my post?
Yes, I did. You wrote: The loss of reasonable returns on these
havens forced people into the money market . . .
You must have forgoten what you wrote! Probably a case of being
absent minded because all you can think of is
The Kiplinger Newsletter's take on the financial bailout:
10 Things That Will Change
http://kiplinger.com/businessresource/forecast/archive/Ten_Things_That_Will_Be_Different_When_the_Financial_Smoke_Clears_080926.html
http://tinyurl.com/3zrd39
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
Stockholders have just voted. The bailout was extremely important to
the financial health of the country, or so they apparently believe.
---
NEWS ALERT
from The Wall Street Journal
Sept. 29, 2008
The Dow Jones Industrial Average plunged more than 500 points as the the
final votes
Now down 700 points and dropping
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Stockholders have just voted. The bailout was extremely important to
the financial health of the country, or so they apparently believe.
---
NEWS ALERT
from The Wall Street Journal
Sept. 29, 2008
The Dow Jones
What's causing the drop Stephen? Is it banking shares or all shares?
-Original Message-
From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 September 2008 19:18
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Now down 700 points and dropping
Stephen
The plunge stabilized and bounced back a bit after passing the -700
mark. IMHO it's too early to tell if this is Black Thursday all over
again, or just the usual stock market shenanigans, behaving like a
flighty horse and shying at shadows.
__
NEWS ALERT
from The
What's causing the drop Stephen? Is it banking shares or all shares?
Well - in a larger sense of this being an historic day of judgment (starting
at sunset), it is easier to understand what is going on. The wicked will be
getting hit the hardest.
It is written that on Rosh Hashanah the
Yes but what's causing the drop? I'm curious to know if after $700billion
whether anything has changed.
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 September 2008 19:42
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
What's causing
Jones Beene wrote:
What's causing the drop Stephen? Is it banking shares or all
shares?
Dunno, haven't looked closely (I'm too busy hiding under the table to
keep pieces of the sky from hitting me on the head), but when the Dow
barfs like that it's not usually just one sector which drags it
On Sep 29, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Stockholders have just voted. The bailout was extremely important to
the financial health of the country, or so they apparently believe.
---
NEWS ALERT
from The Wall Street Journal
Sept. 29, 2008
The Dow Jones Industrial
News stories I'm seeing make it sound like it was the conservative
Republicans who nuked the deal.
With Barney Frank as lead representative on the bill, in the end it was
apparently, in some sense, a Democratic initiative(?) or at any rate it
was certainly bi-partisan.
Dow down 750 by the close.
Gold bugs won.
So far everyone else is looking like a loser.
Keep in mind that the deal that was killed was not the first deal on the
table; there had been significant changes to it, or so I understand, and
it was supposedly quite a bit less outrageous than the thing
: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
The people who nuked the deal are the people who do not trust the
administration and who, in addition to listening to the voters, were
able to hear what various economists are saying. Of course, it helps
to be very conservative or very
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 September 2008 21:48
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Tell me something, is a president of the USA largely titular like a British
monarch or do they have real power. Is it government by cabinet or
leader-centric?
-Original Message
work.
Jeff
-Original Message-
From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 3:30 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
News stories I'm seeing make it sound like it was the conservative
Republicans who nuked
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Sent: 29 September 2008 20:43
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
The people who nuked the deal are the people who do not trust the
administration and who, in addition to listening to the voters, were
able to hear what various
I do not understand economics, but Warren Buffett said this bailout
is needed, and he is a smart cookie. So I worry that this, or
something like it, is needed.
Obama said: stay calm, because things are never smooth in Congress .
. . There are going to be some bumps and trials and tribulations
]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 3:30 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
News stories I'm seeing make it sound like it was the conservative
Republicans who nuked the deal.
With Barney Frank as lead representative on the bill, in the end it
was
apparently
Jeff Fink wrote:
The dems control the house and senate. They don't need a single republican
vote to get anything they want!
That is not true. They have a small majority, and not much party
unity. There are many conservative Democrats who will vote with
Republicans on many issues. Many of
Everyone agrees some kind of repair is needed. This is obvious. The
issue is what form this repair should take. An increasing number of
experts and ordinary people are realizing that the Paulson Plan is not
form the repair should take. Unfortunately, the administration
panicked and put
Remi Cornwall wrote (tongue-in-cheek no doubt):
Tell me something, is a president of the USA largely titular like a British
monarch or do they have real power. Is it government by cabinet or
leader-centric?
This president is one of weakest in history, because it is close to
the end of his
From Jed,
...
This is an extraordinary moment in US history. The situation is a lot more
critical than most people realize, according to friends of mine who
understand something about economics.
- Jed
Taking the longer view, it does seem obvious to me that this mess will
go down in the
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:36:53 -0400:
Hi,
I heard on TV last night that the level of private debt in the US is
$41 trillion. Imagine what is going to happen if the banks start calling in
*all* their loans.
[snip]
This is an extraordinary moment in US history.
://www.davidicke.com/index.php/
http://www.jimmarrs.com/
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 2:37 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Remi Cornwall wrote (tongue-in-cheek
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
I heard on TV last night that the level of private debt in the US is
$41 trillion. Imagine what is going to happen if the banks start calling in
*all* their loans.
Precisely. That's what people like Warren Buffett are worried about.
They are not concerned about the
From Robin,
...
I have no idea if that $41 trillion figure is accurate or not. I have heard
various estimates. I think a large part of the problem is that no one has
any idea what the true number is, or who owes what to whom for what
property.
$41T does sound a little high. A colleague at
: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 September 2008 23:17
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
I heard on TV last night that the level of private debt in the US is
$41 trillion. Imagine what is going to happen if the banks
In reply to OrionWorks's message of Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:42:04 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
$41T does sound a little high. A colleague at work got out his
calculator and figured out that if you divided 40T by 400 million
Americans, that would amount to a debt load of approximately $100,000,
each. That seems
Jed,
The Utube link is hilarious! Sad that there is so much truth in it.
I tend to agree with Paul Krugmen on this one--he hates Bush, doesn't like
Wall Street,
but thinks the bailout's necessary.
analysis: http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/
So what we now have is non-functional government in
Ron Wormus wrote:
I tend to agree with Paul Krugmen on this one--he hates Bush, doesn't like
Wall Street,
but thinks the bailout's necessary. analysis:
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/
Yes but maybe he is only half right. Of course it is necessary -- and it will
pass towards the end of
Remi Cornwall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the democrats are shifting the blame.
The law makers have a duty to make sure that people behave in a civilised
manner. If you create an environment where people can panic in a crowded
theatre
The President is the one who cried fire, not the
Remi Cornwall wrote:
They are forever talking about the character of the republicans but one
needs to look at the character of the left: a motley crew of the
self-loathing, anarchists, vandals, control freaks, low standards, low
achievement, anti-patriotic scumbags.
More total crap from Remi -
Jed wrote
Republicans thought it stank. The vote was:
Democrats 140 Yea, 95 Nay
Republicans 65 Yea, 133 Nay
More to the point snip
Even more to the point, voters are liking it about 10:1 against. So who's
doing the representin' here?
And Jeff is right, twice. Dems have the majority, no
--On Monday, September 29, 2008 5:12 PM -0700 Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Ron Wormus wrote:
I tend to agree with Paul Krugmen on this one--he hates Bush, doesn't like
Wall Street,
but thinks the bailout's necessary. analysis:
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/
Yes but maybe he
Rick Monteverde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Even more to the point, voters are liking it about 10:1 against. So who's
doing the representin' here?
As I mentioned, the U.S. system is not direct representation.
Representatives are supposed to use their own judgment. Nothing in the
Constitution
OrionWorks wrote:
Leak sez:
I seem to recall that it wasnt that a human wouldn't swat it, its that
a human wouldnt know waht a bee was.
I could be wrong.
I have not read PKD's novel, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep.
However, in the film adaption Blade Runner it seemed obvious to
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: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:25 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Actually, only the Supreme Court can answer this question and they
show no interest in doing so. The cause of the problem
Message-
From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:25 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Actually, only the Supreme Court can answer this question and they
show no interest in doing so. The cause
be
it cash, stocks or bonds.
Terry.
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Jeff Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:25 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News
, 2008 4:25 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Actually, only the Supreme Court can answer this question and they
show no interest in doing so. The cause of the problem is
obvious to
anyone who has looked at reality. Many mistakes were
PM, Jeff Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:25 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Actually, only the Supreme Court can answer
Message-
From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:25 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Actually, only the Supreme Court can answer this question and they
show no interest in doing so. The cause
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:25 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Actually, only the Supreme Court can answer this question
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wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:25 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Actually, only the Supreme Court can answer this question and
they
show
$105,849 from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac lobbyists.
Would you acknowledge this and the above or are you too partisan?
_
From: Remi Cornwall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 September 2008 00:59
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Lots of good stuff
this and the above or are you too partisan?
From: Remi Cornwall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 September 2008 00:59
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Lots of good stuff: http://www.capmag.com/
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 September 2008 23
- Original Message
From: Edmund Storms
The choice is always the lesser of two evils. We never get perfection. Obama
has less baggage than McCain, he is smarter, and he has a better plan.
Far less baggage --
... and speaking of the overloaded portmanteau almost too ponderous to
- Original Message
... apparently Remi does not remember the infamous Keating Five -
... from the net, a little refresher lesson in how recent political history
has this nagging tendency to repeat itself every new generation:
John McCain The Ghost of Keating Five
posted last week
or are you too partisan?
_
From: Remi Cornwall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 September 2008 00:59
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Lots of good stuff: http://www.capmag.com/
_
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
- Original Message
... apparently Remi does not remember the infamous Keating Five -
... from the net, a little refresher lesson in how recent political
history has this nagging tendency to repeat itself every new generation:
John McCain
From Remi Cornwall
The less government the better. Trust your constitution that's why it was
written.
Silly me to think this but less government would appear to have
resulted in nobody minding the store, nor the constitution for that
matter. And look where that got us.
Regardless of whether
.
New energy will empower people to self-reliance.
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 September 2008 16:08
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
- Original Message
... apparently Remi does not remember
why it was
written.
New energy will empower people to self-reliance.
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 September 2008 16:08
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
- Original Message
... apparently
constitution was forged in the light of the Enlightenment.
-Original Message-
From: leaking pen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 September 2008 17:27
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Less government on the individual. MORE on the corporation
constitution was forged in the light of the Enlightenment.
-Original Message-
From: leaking pen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 September 2008 17:27
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Less government on the individual. MORE on the corporation
From Remi Cornwall:
I'm not convinced about the need for more government.
It attracts the Machiavellian type who don't deal in facts and distort truth
(such as blaming the credit crunch on the free market when the demos vetoed
reform).
It attracts unproductive hangers-on to big public
the
right.
The American constitution was forged in the light of the Enlightenment.
-Original Message-
From: leaking pen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 September 2008 17:27
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Less government on the individual
? When
do
governments vote themselves less power?
I'm in agreement about corporations.
-Original Message-
From: leaking pen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 September 2008 18:08
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
The American constitution was formed
Remi Cornwall wrote:
How do you regulate government then? Who governs the governors? When do
governments vote themselves less power?
That's a odd question. Democratic governments never vote on anything.
Only the voters do.
US and British voters have repeatedly given our governments
@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
The American constitution was formed with the concept of freedom for
people, and that coorporations would do their best to oppress people.
And they were right. They had the East Indies Trading Company, they
knew what evil could
forth) and many more I could find if I was
a lawyer and constitutional expert.
-Original Message-
From: leaking pen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 September 2008 18:58
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
What is a government? You treat it like some
@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
The American constitution was formed with the concept of freedom for
people, and that coorporations would do their best to oppress people.
And they were right. They had the East Indies Trading Company, they
knew what evil could be done
Remi Cornwall wrote:
Jed*: If you think they give back 'their' powers then I think you are living
in cloud cuckoo land.
I said the voters took power back. Please do not distort my words.
Are you under the impression that tax rates in the U.S. are still
90%? Is rationing still imposed in the
On Sep 26, 2008, at 12:41 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Edmund Storms wrote:
The power of government always grows.
Except when it shrinks.
Of course some laws are repealed and some are no longer enforced
unless you get caught doing something that threatens the government.
Nevertheless, the
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:08 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
- Original Message
... apparently Remi does not remember the infamous Keating Five -
... from
Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 September 2008 19:41
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Edmund Storms wrote:
The power of government always grows.
Except when it shrinks.
That's a rather silly thing to say, Ed. If it always grew then we
would
I guess you'd make a great Chinese citizen.
-Original Message-
From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 September 2008 19:48
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
On Sep 26, 2008, at 12:18 PM, Remi Cornwall wrote:
Ed
Remi Cornwall wrote:
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
I just want to stop this simplistic notion GOP/Tory = bad, Labour/Democrat =
Good, more government = good. There are false prophets.
I do not think anyone here has made such a simplistic assertion. We
have all read history
Are you sure?
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any law can be repealed.
The public are infantilised, not talk how to think, how to have any dignity
for themselves, putty infinitely mouldable in the hands of the elite.
Jed, a lie's a lie. A pig with its nose in the trough
:48
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
On Sep 26, 2008, at 12:18 PM, Remi Cornwall wrote:
Ed: what you say sounds cynical and jaded.
I suppose it does to someone who believes in the ideal function of
government. However, if you examine
From Remi:
Was it Gene Hackman in a film I can't remember with this line
You're either police or little people.
I believe you are referring to a memorable quote from the famous film,
Blad Runner with Harrison Ford as Deckard. See: Memorable quotes for
Blade Runner:
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
On Sep 26, 2008, at 12:18 PM, Remi Cornwall wrote:
Ed: what you say sounds cynical and jaded.
I suppose it does to someone who believes in the ideal function of
government. However, if you examine the actual
Remi Cornwall wrote:
Are you sure?
Yes, I have read history, and lived through it, and I am sure things
were much worse in the past. I am also sure they can get worse again.
The public are infantilised, not talk how to think, how to have any
dignity for themselves, putty infinitely
@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Remi Cornwall wrote:
Are you sure?
Yes, I have read history, and lived through it, and I am sure things
were much worse in the past. I am also sure they can get worse again.
The public are infantilised, not talk how to think, how to have any
From Remi:
How does the liberal code of movie production run, like this?
1) Aim low then lower still. Hate you country, let the bad win,
let the good suffer. Bamboozle, perplex.
2) Incorrect standards of life will be seen as thought provoking:
man married to sister both marrying a sheep.
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Fink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:17 PM
To: 'vortex-l@eskimo.com'
Subject: RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Could we say that most of the problems with the US government can be traced
to areas where it extends beyond
Remi Cornwall wrote:
How does the liberal code of movie production run, like this?
1) Aim low then lower still. Hate you country, let the bad win, let the good
suffer. Bamboozle, perplex.
2) Incorrect standards of life will be seen as thought provoking: man
married to sister both marrying a
PM
To: 'vortex-l@eskimo.com'
Subject: RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Could we say that most of the problems with the US government can be traced
to areas where it extends beyond its constitutional limits?
Jeff
OrionWorks wrote:
From Remi:
Was it Gene Hackman in a film I can't remember with this line
You're either police or little people.
I believe you are referring to a memorable quote from the famous film,
Blad Runner with Harrison Ford as Deckard. See: Memorable quotes for
Blade Runner:
@eskimo.com'
Subject: RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Could we say that most of the problems with the US government can be
traced
to areas where it extends beyond its constitutional limits?
Jeff
I seem to recall that it wasnt that a human wouldn't swat it, its that
a human wouldnt know waht a bee was.
I could be wrong.
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OrionWorks wrote:
From Remi:
Was it Gene Hackman in a film I can't remember with this
Wow! Team America on the TV. See ya.
-Original Message-
From: OrionWorks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 September 2008 20:58
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
From Remi:
How does the liberal code of movie production run, like this?
1) Aim
Jeff Fink wrote:
Could we say that most of the problems with the US government can be traced
to areas where it extends beyond its constitutional limits?
I would go along with that. It is hard to say whether it is most or
many or some of the most serious but that surely is a problem.
The
leaking pen wrote:
I seem to recall that it wasnt that a human wouldn't swat it, its that
a human wouldnt know waht a bee was.
That wasn't the point of the test, at least in the book -- in fact
Deckard may even have explained to her what a bee was when the question
came up; I'm no longer
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From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:25 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Actually, only the Supreme Court can answer this question and they
show no interest
On Sep 26, 2008, at 3:53 PM, Jeff Fink wrote:
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From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:25 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Actually, only the Supreme Court can
Can't argue with that.
I just want to know why when GOP representatives are on TV that they don't
give more history about how this mess came about.
Say it loud, say it proud,
the democrats vetoed reform in 2003
and took money from lobbyists.
They are like tamed pigs in the trough.
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