Re: [Vo]:OT:Economic crisis and post-capitalism

2011-06-16 Thread Nick Palmer
Steven V Johnson wrote: Who all this global debt is owed to is of course the 64 quadrillion dollar question National debt has existed for a long time. When I was growing up I used to wonder why, if just about every country had a debt, they didn't simply pay each other off and then most

RE: [Vo]:OT:Economic crisis and post-capitalism

2011-06-16 Thread todd
It doesn't look like the burgeoning debt is going away anytime soon...seehttp://www.infowars.com/u-s-invasion-of-libya-set-for-october/Hence, the 2011 Silver Gold Salon events to move alternative techs forward in order to reduce our nation's dependence on foreign oil...yes, it's a Hail Mary pass,

[Vo]:OT:Economic crisis and post-capitalism

2011-06-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Economic crisis and post-capitalism http://www.redpepper.org.uk/economic-crisis-and-post-capitalism/ First of all, it involves recognising that maximising the growth of output is not a valid guiding principle of economic management in a modern society. While in pre-industrial societies, where

Re: [Vo]:OT:Economic crisis and post-capitalism

2011-06-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Who all this global debt is owed to is of course the 64 quadrillion dollar question. I suspect global lenders of this delicious debt are not likely to give up all the accumulated power they have amassed over the decades either. Like hell they are not going to go past Go and not expect to collect

Re: [Vo]:OT:Economic crisis and post-capitalism

2011-06-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
I mentioned a similar set of ideas a few months ago: http://www.thelightsinthetunnel.com/ See also the book by Rifkin, The End of Work. - Jed