Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-10 Thread John Berry
Ok, so we have the many billion dollar trades. And a faked 'video' of Osama saying that he will nuke US cities, he just happens to say new stuff during a 12 minute video freeze, otherwise it could have been filmed before the Iraq war. Bush wants to attack Iran badly but simply doesn't have the

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-10 Thread John Berry
To answer my own question: Hans Kristensen, an expert on US nuclear forces said that the air force keeps a computerized command and control system that traces any movement of a nuclear weapon so that they have a complete picture of where they are at any given time. He also added that perhaps

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-10 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
John Berry wrote: Ok, so we have the many billion dollar trades. And a faked 'video' of Osama saying that he will nuke US cities, he just happens to say new stuff during a 12 minute video freeze, otherwise it could have been filmed before the Iraq war. Bush wants to attack Iran badly but

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-10 Thread R.C.Macaulay
John Berry wrote.. Hans Kristensen, an expert on US nuclear forces said that the air force keeps a computerized command and control system that traces any movement of a nuclear weapon so that they have a complete picture of where they are at any given time. Howdy John, We have a bartender

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-07 Thread OrionWorks
Located the missing nuke. http://scientificsonline.com/product.asp?pn=3053199sid=sept7usbcm_mmc=ec-_-sept7usb-_-body-_-3053199bhcd2=1189169340 http://tinyurl.com/2x8nhs Please don't hesitate if I can be of further assistance. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-06 Thread R.C.Macaulay
Stephen Lawrence wrote... As to how or why it could happen -- did you ever wonder whether they REALLY have nuclear tipped cruise missiles in the arsenal? No, you didn't? Well, perhaps not. But, did you ever wonder if President Ahmadinejad has ever wondered if we REALLY have nuclear-tipped

[Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-06 Thread Jones Beene
Back to the options - the Bin Laden trades themselves. As it turns out, almost the same situation (even bigger) has happened in Europe- as what has happened on the Chicago options market. Surprise, surprise. An anonymous investor placed a massive bet on an index of Europe's top 50 stocks

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-06 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Jones Beene wrote: PS As to the phony-baloney story of why the missile episode may have occured, Stephen Lawrence wrote: I don't think so. They were advanced cruise missiles: that was the _name_. Presumably they were advanced when they were designed, but that was over a decade ago.

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-06 Thread Ron Wormus
So where is the information that there is one warhead missing coming from? Is it reliable? Ron --On Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:30 PM -0400 Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jones Beene wrote: PS As to the phony-baloney story of why the missile episode may have occured,

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-06 Thread Jones Beene
--- Ron Wormus wrote: So where is the information that there is one warhead missing coming from? Is it reliable? Not really. CNN had reported for several days that five nuclear warheads were sent. As we know, they have a Pentagon source. Most other News agencies said six. AFAIK - no one has

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-06 Thread Ron Wormus
Well hopefully they have an inventory they know where they all are now. I doubt we would hear it in the news if one went missing. --On Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:31 PM -0700 Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ron Wormus wrote: So where is the information that there is one

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-06 Thread Terry Blanton
The Euro trade was twice the US trade. Does this mean that the terrorism was planned for Europe? Was the bust in Germany the reason? Is it safe to go back into the market? (key Jaws theme music) Terry On 9/6/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back to the options - the Bin Laden trades

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-06 Thread Jones Beene
--- Terry Blanton wrote: The Euro trade was twice the US trade. Does this mean that the terrorism was planned for Europe? Perhaps. Or maybe both trades are simply little more than a bad bet and a false alarm, placed by a very wealthy group. The US stock market was up today, despite the

[Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-05 Thread Jones Beene
I googled bin laden trades and found this, signed by one Cynthia McKinney, FORMER US CONGRESSWOMAN, GEORGIA... [is she a 'leftist, pinko, commie, etc. or just a concerned citizen? ] To the American people, and to peace loving individuals everywhere: Massive evidence has come to our

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-05 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 5, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Jones Beene wrote: I googled bin laden trades and found this, signed by one Cynthia McKinney, FORMER US CONGRESSWOMAN, GEORGIA... [is she a 'leftist, pinko, commie, etc. or just a concerned citizen? ] Controversial at least. See:

[Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-05 Thread Jones Beene
--- Horace Heffner wrote: ... Cynthia McKinney, FORMER US CONGRESSWOMAN, GEORGIA... Controversial at least. Looks that way. I would have less trouble with a putative Cheney plot- a last ditch effort to salvage the presidency, if the story about the Five cruise missiles armed with nuclear

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-05 Thread Jones Beene
Coincidence, of course. I should add that we may not have heard the end of this yet - as it's not clear why the warheads hadn't been removed ahead of time (which is standard practice); nor why the first reports said that there were six warheads instead of five! ... It should also be

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-05 Thread Jones Beene
--- Horace Heffner wrote: Do you have a URL on that? http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gmqA7P-MPnRJzQ5v9Xi6M5zdr9IA

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-05 Thread Ron Wormus
Amazing. As an long ex B-52 Pilot who sat a lot of alerts I don't see how this could happen accidentally. Ron --On Wednesday, September 05, 2007 3:46 PM -0700 Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Horace Heffner wrote: Do you have a URL on that?

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-05 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 5, 2007, at 2:46 PM, Jones Beene wrote: --- Horace Heffner wrote: Do you have a URL on that? http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gmqA7P-MPnRJzQ5v9Xi6M5zdr9IA Thanks! I didn't realize it was all over the place in today's news. Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-05 Thread Jones Beene
Ron - you were a 'Nam era pilot, correct? Is there any logical way that there could be confusion over whether there were five or six missiles ? I guess they are in pods, and it takes a trained eye... The later reports are saying five, the earlier ones six... Does this sound to you like an

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-05 Thread leaking pen
so, is decommissioned the latest euphemism for , armed and fired at targets in iran? On 9/5/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coincidence, of course. I should add that we may not have heard the end of this yet - as it's not clear why the warheads hadn't been removed ahead of time

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-05 Thread Ron Wormus
Jones, That's is correct I was AF from 69 to 73 but only TDY to Guam in 72-73. It is hard for me to believe that a nuke armed B-52 could get off the ground accidently. There are a lot of people procedures involved plus the on board electronics that tells the flight crew the weapon status.

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-05 Thread Terry Blanton
Well, the story is already on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-129_ACM Operational History The B-52H bomber can carry up to six AGM-129A missiles on each of two external pylons for a total of 12 per aircraft. The AGM-129A provides the bomber the ability to attack multiple targets without

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On 9/5/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe some nostalgia is in order: http://youtube.com/watch?v=lW4s7TETtJA Never thought a newspaper could do so much for me. How 'bout this newspaper showing CROCodile tears: http://www.charlotte.com/nation/story/263361.html Practice?

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On 9/5/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Terry Blanton wrote: Well, the story is already on wiki: Ha! new spin, bigger shovel, deeper hole... I wonder . . . what was that website which tracked the changes to wiki? Who posted this so quickly? In September 2007 five ACMs

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-05 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Jones Beene wrote: BTW one report said these were the most modern missiles in the arsenal I don't think so. They were advanced cruise missiles: that was the _name_. Presumably they were advanced when they were designed, but that was over a decade ago. People have a way of naming