Yes, the Cerron paper was mentioned on MFMP site. That is what prompted my post.
Harry
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:
For what it's worth, Harry, there is a bit of early history that played out
in a way similar to what you're describing.
Back in 1994,
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com wrote:
Celani was not able to allow long sustanable mode because this requires a
higher temperature, which is possible but not for a long period of time in
such transparant tube.
Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
I maybe be wrong but I think you told us his original plan was to first
raise the temperature of the cell. That would have been consistent with how
the E-cat operates,
which supposedly begins to produce heat at a certain temperature
but doesn't
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
I maybe be wrong but I think you told us his original plan was to first
raise the temperature of the cell. That would have been consistent with how
the E-cat operates,
which
temperatures
exist.
Dave
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On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw
be interesting if you know of a
reference from Rossi where he acknowledges that these two critical
temperatures exist.
Dave
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To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
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Subject: Re: [Vo]:So what has been
... Instead Celani, Piantelli, Forcardi discovered that when nickel
aborbs hygrodgen the thermal charactersitics of nickel change (by
making it less reflective)?
And Celani has discovered that this change is correlated with a drop
in the electrical resistance of the nickle.
Is that it?
harry
I do not think it is clear yet what has been discovered. The story so far:
At ICCF17, McKubre called into question Celani's calorimetry. Celani said
he would try to put these doubts to rest by making the cell self sustain.
He tried, but he could not. That's bad news.
Celani himself said the
Celani was not able to allow long sustanable mode because this requires a
higher temperature, which is possible but not for a long period of time in
such transparant tube.
On Monday, December 17, 2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I do not think it is clear yet what has been discovered. The story so
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think it is clear yet what has been discovered. The story so far:
At ICCF17, McKubre called into question Celani's calorimetry. Celani said he
would try to put these doubts to rest by making the cell self
For what it's worth, Harry, there is a bit of early history that played out
in a way similar to what you're describing.
Back in 1994, Focardi, Habel and Piantelli published this:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/library/1994/1994Focardi-AnomalousHeatNi-H-NuovoCimento.pdf
After which some folks at
Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com wrote:
Celani was not able to allow long sustanable mode because this requires a
higher temperature, which is possible but not for a long period of time in
such transparant tube.
No, that is not an issue. He wrapped the cell in insulation. This allowed
I wrote:
Regarding Ed Storms' analysis, it applies to all isoperibolic calorimeters
where you measure the temperature at the cell wall . . .
Plus, as he says, where you measure the temperature of unmixed fluid inside
the cell.
Many people claimed the FP made this mistake, but they quickly
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