Re: [Vo]:Software collision experiment

2014-06-30 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
There has to be a mathematical link. The amount of correctness in predicting chemical and fysical properties is just too amazing from both of them. And you claim the theories cannot be linked. E.g one of them is junk. Well mills theory is easy verified. No one have shown errors in those

Re: [Vo]:Software collision experiment

2014-06-30 Thread David Roberson
current. Dave -Original Message- From: Stefan Israelsson Tampe stefan.ita...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Jun 30, 2014 12:28 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Software collision experiment There has to be a mathematical link. The amount of correctness in predicting

Re: [Vo]:Software collision experiment

2014-06-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe stefan.ita...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway how to interpret the electron as a ball going around or really a field is not yet proved even to date. If you look at Mills theory, the electron is a spherical electron charge, so If he is right,

Re: [Vo]:Software collision experiment

2014-06-29 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
I have an idea how the push of the electron field can happen. As the proton approaches the hydrogen's there will be a flat region i the electrostatic force field in the middle. If the electron is there it would not like to curve its field but keep it flattened in order to not radiat it will not

Re: [Vo]:Software collision experiment

2014-06-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Jun 29, 2014, at 14:14, Stefan Israelsson Tampe stefan.ita...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, mills theory and QED is pretty close in calculating quantities for the hydrogen's atom. They must be dual or approx. Dual. I doubt they are dual. The electron shell model says that with increasing

Re: [Vo]:Software collision experiment

2014-06-27 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
Yep I also suspect that the time constant of the adaptation of the electron field is faster at the moderate speeds, but for the experiments where Gamov factors rules I suspect that the electron field cannot adapt. Anyway again theoreticians misses the elephant in the room. Physics is physics, not

Re: [Vo]:Software collision experiment

2014-06-27 Thread Bob Cook
Stefan-- You suggest that Pauli may enter Kim’s idea. How do you consider that spin coupling enters the picture? Cooper pairing is generally considered a real physical condition. Bob Sent from Windows Mail From: Stefan Israelsson Tampe Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎June‎ ‎26‎, ‎2014

Re: [Vo]:Software collision experiment

2014-06-27 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
bare in mind that I'm really an engineer and not a physisits, I mostly poses some, as I think, interesting questions, and suggest, a bit wildly, some ideas. When it comes to Pauli principle e.g. that you cannot fit to many electrons on the same energy state, you essentially get a field separation

Re: [Vo]:Software collision experiment

2014-06-27 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.bnl.gov/rhic/news2/news.asp?a=2870t=today Here is some science related to the subject that concerns you. The gluon may contain magnetic properties and scientists want to build an electron ion collider to get more info on the properties to the gluon under added energy conditions. The

[Vo]:Software collision experiment

2014-06-26 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
Hi all, I was wondering about the higher then expected rates of fusion seen in accelerator experiments at moderate speeds seen by researcher and explained by electron screening. The fundamental paper Kim et all i basing his theory on is in a sense interesting and can be a reality, but I did only

Re: [Vo]:Software collision experiment

2014-06-26 Thread James Bowery
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe stefan.ita...@gmail.com wrote: The fundamental paper Kim et all i basing his theory on is in a sense interesting and can be a reality, but I did only see that they manage to fit the model to the data, not really a proof of that the

Re: [Vo]:Software collision experiment

2014-06-26 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
Over fitting was my feeling when reading about Kim et al. On the other hand if you can make use of first principles and simulate a collision that would be great for understanding of what happens in a collision. Of cause assuming that QED is good enough to model the electrodynamic stage of the

Re: [Vo]:Software collision experiment

2014-06-26 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe stefan.ita...@gmail.com wrote: My thought is the following, if the proton hit the hydrogen atom fast enough the electron field does not adapt fast enough and I would assume that the picture is like a bullet penetrating a shield. Here the