RE: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-30 Thread Jones Beene
The vacuum according to experts, including Dirac, is not empty. If the vacuum reacts with any kind of matter, it reacts with hydrogen. The prior post was based on the proton mass of 938.27231 MeV or 1876.545 for two protons, and the mass of the deuteron being 1875.613 MeV. Thus splitting

Re: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Falsifiability - look for radiation inside the reactor at the approximate level of 90 or 45 keV. And, while you're looking, check for spontaneous emission, ie coherence.

Re: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-30 Thread Axil Axil
When the understanding and credibility of LENR is well entrenched is main stream science, the Mizuno (Yoshino) experiment and others like it will be a first of the primary and indispensable tools used to explore and quantify dark energy and its place in the universe. On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at

RE: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-29 Thread Jones Beene
Part I The recent Mizuno (Yoshino) presentation at the MIT colloquium and the surprising implication of finding about twice the quantity of hydrogen appearing as ash from deuterium reactions (as the starting gas) after a month long run - has been the inspiration for the following early stage

RE: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-29 Thread Jones Beene
Part II When a free neutron decays to a proton, substantial energy is released as well as a neutrino - which carries away about 40% of the net energy undetected. That is the main problem to overcome in framing a putative exothermic deuterium reaction in place of the endotherm which would normally

Re: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-29 Thread Axil Axil
I favor the idea that a strong magnetic field can catalyze pion virtual particles from the energy borrowed from the vacuum that can disrupt the nucleus of the atom along the path of that magnetic field. If a plus pion transmutes a neutron into a proton using borrowed energy from the vacuum (135

Re: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-29 Thread Axil Axil
Come to think of it, this pion reaction is a mind bender. This Mizuno reaction is the exact opposite of the proton-proton chain reaction. That is the fusion reaction by which stars convert hydrogen to helium. If the proton-proton chain reaction produces positive energy, then its opposite fission

Re: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-29 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: They say that the data never lies; but wow, does LENR really get all or most of its energy from the vacuum. I have always thought so. But, then, I have been a Puthoff fan-boy for ages. :-)

RE: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-29 Thread Jones Beene
Yes - even if plausible way exists in QM for converting deuterium to hydrogen with gain, that gain obviously does not derive from the mass of the deuterium, per se. This leaves these main possibilities, and a few others 1) vacuum energy (ZPE) 2) nickel mass via spin coupling 3) Mills version

Re: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-29 Thread Axil Axil
Entwined as in a tree with vacuum energy (ZPE) as the tap root, and the others (if real) as emergent pathways of energy flow. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Yes - even if plausible way exists in QM for converting deuterium to hydrogen with gain, that

RE: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-29 Thread Jones Beene
One other exotic possibility comes to mind, thinking about Ni-64. This nickel isotope appears to be unique in the periodic table, being the highest ratio of excess neutrons in a stable isotope, compared to the most common isotope of that element (36/30 = 12%) in nature. (hydrogen-deuterium does

Re: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-29 Thread David Roberson
Just wanted to add one minor thought to the discussion. Could it be that the breaking up of the D into pieces might actually take energy from the system that is then added back by a relatively minor amount of more or less standard H reaction with nickel? The implications of such a process are