Jones wrote:
We could produce more if needed; but, we already have
surpluses and
pay farmers not to plant crops.
Is this still going on despite record prices for corn?
If so, it weakens the no food-grain for fuel
argument. That is: if we have land which is not being
planted and
It is, and I've pointed it out several times when the whole, no food
for fuel arguement comes up. There is still corn being grown for no
purpose but to grind up for soil conditioning.
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry,
We could produce more if needed;
Michael
You may be right, but isn't the Valcent-Vertigro (American) company fairly
advanced in this field? I really don't see why more attention isn't being
paid to this technology. Seems like a winner to me.
Yes - as a matter of fact, the lack of attention which does appear to be
Jones Beene wrote:
Although its economy is generally so far to the left as to be called
socialist by detractors in the NeoCon movement, due to its entitlements and
innate humanism, it is ironically also one of the most free market and
capitalist farm economies in the world - less regulated
'GW' or 'CF' shama-lama-dingdong ting I'll be
back.
Guess that won't be soon.
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From: Nick Palmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 October 2008 07:23
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The evolution of good governance
Jones Beene wrote:
Although its
It's good to know that Mr. Cornwall has informed of the fact that he
has important things do. I was beginning to get worried.
Jones, it truly astonishes me to realize that such a small country is
capable of producing that much output. Puts us (The so-called Bread
Basket?) to shame.
Regards
Terry Sez:
We could produce more if needed; but, we already have surpluses and
pay farmers not to plant crops.
Terry
Indeed, this is true. However, with the current greed to produce more
ethanol I question whether we will maintain our so-called surpluses
for much longer. Besides, I'm sure
OrionWorks wrote:
Jones, it truly astonishes me to realize that such a small country is
capable of producing that much output. Puts us (The so-called Bread
Basket?) to shame.
U.S. agriculture is optimized for high productivity per worker, not
high productivity per hectare of land. I do not
It would appear so:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_U.S._Farm_Bill
however, there hasn't been a corn subsidy for some time, AFAIK.
Renewable subsidies have shifted from grains to celluose and biomass
sources.
Terry
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry,
It would appear so:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_U.S._Farm_Bill
however, there hasn't been a corn subsidy for some time, AFAIK.
Renewable subsidies have shifted from grains to celluose and biomass
sources.
Terry
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry,
Terry Blanton wrote:
however, there hasn't been a corn subsidy for some time, AFAIK.
There is a large ethanol subsidy, which amounts to the same thing.
This site claims there was a corn subsidy of $13 billion in 2006. It
does not have more recent information:
OrionWorks wrote:
It's good to know that Mr. Cornwall has informed of the fact that he
has important things do. I was beginning to get worried.
Jones, it truly astonishes me to realize that such a small country is
capable of producing that much output. Puts us (The so-called Bread
Are wooden shoes considered agriculture? ;-)
Terry
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OrionWorks wrote:
It's good to know that Mr. Cornwall has informed of the fact that he
has important things do. I was beginning to get worried.
Jones, it truly
They were. Now they are no longer grain-based subsidies.
Terry
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry Blanton wrote:
however, there hasn't been a corn subsidy for some time, AFAIK.
There is a large ethanol subsidy, which amounts to the same thing.
Terry sez:
Are wooden shoes considered agriculture? ;-)
Terry
Only if you lost the bet.
BTW, Tulip bulbs ARE edible.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
A good portion of Dutch tulip bulbs are grown in US shipped to Holland for
retail sale.
Ron
--On Thursday, October 02, 2008 2:18 PM -0400 Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL
PROTECTED] wrote:
OrionWorks wrote:
It's good to know that Mr. Cornwall has informed of the fact that he
has important
OrionWorks wrote:
BTW, Tulip bulbs ARE edible.
During the Tulipmania craze (1637), an investor found the captain
of a ship frying up his tulip bulbs for lunch. The bulbs were worth
as much as a house.
I think that was in Mackay's book Extraordinary Popular Delusions
and the Madness of
Quick - vorticians - name the country that is the world's second largest
exporter of food and agricultural products, after
the United States.
Hint- that country is not large and warm, like Australia or Brazil, and in fact
is *tiny* - having only twice the acreage of the state of Massachusetts.
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 1 Oct 2008 19:08:37 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
Quick - vorticians - name the country that is the world's second largest
exporter of food and agricultural products, after
the United States.
The Netherlands is primarily a trading nation and has been for
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