Thanks for that comment Thomas, but my credentials are nowhere close to Ed's -
and consist of mainly having been around the scene for 19 years with a strong
interest (60 hour weeks) in trying to understand what is happening on a much
broader front than LENR alone.
However, having said that -
Howdy Jones,
Energy is the mother's milk of our present day society and economy. Think of a
hungry infant and the fuss they raise when it's feeding time and try to imagine
a major national energy lurch that would make the 1973 experience look like
childs play.
I can understand Ed Storm's
Jed, Another point you should consider including is that because America
has failed to follow thorough on its own discovery and fund the
research; other country's are also effected. Some countries have been
actively discouraged from working in the field by American government
employees;
FWIW, one of Joe Biden's science advisers is the ever irascible Dr.
Peter Zimmerman. I gather he still advises Biden on occasion on
scientific matters, presumably of a nuclear nature...at least Dr.
Zimmerman has continued to advertise that fact within the HSG forum.
Years ago in a private
Wesley Bruce wrote:
Jed, Another point you should consider including is that because
America has failed to follow thorough on its own discovery and fund
the research; other country's are also effected.
That is true, and important, but I think it is too much detail for
this message. I want
At 12:38 AM 10/28/2008 +1100, Wesley Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jed, Another point you should consider including is that because America
has failed to follow thorough on its own discovery and fund the research;
other country's are also effected. Some countries have been actively
OrionWorks wrote:
FWIW, one of Joe Biden's science advisers is the ever irascible Dr.
Peter Zimmerman. I gather he still advises Biden on occasion on
scientific matters . . .
Yikes. That man is impossible to deal with. He and Park are still on
the warpath against cold fusion.
Maybe Dr.
Perhaps what the world stock markets are saying is...
Neither candidate or party for the US presidency has what it takes to
lead.
However, we must try and a letter is a step.
Richard
OrionWorks wrote:
FWIW, one of Joe Biden's science advisers is the ever irascible Dr.
Peter Zimmerman. I
Richard,
If you think we (USA) have it bad - what about Asia? apparently (according to
Business Week) the Japanese exchange has hit a 26 year low !
On the bright side - I see the cup as half-full: many marvelous things are
happening as we speak - and coming together in alternative energy in
The markets world-wide are not reacting to who may be the president in
the US and what he might do. They are reacting to real events in the
financial world and the anticipation that a world-wide depression is
underway. Until the dead wood is out of the market, no one can have
much effect.
Edmund Storms wrote:
As for a letter, someone will be asked to describe exactly how the
requested money will be spent, exactly who will do the work, and when
the promised results can be expected. Without a rational and
scientifically correct answer, all of the
I would suggest making the
OK Thomas, suppose your letter is believed and answered. Exactly how
would you propose this money be spent and by whom? You can say, this
is not your concern. However, somebody has to provide the answer.
This is impossible unless the field can agree on what the consensus
thinks is the
Edmund Storms wrote:
As for a letter, someone will be asked to describe exactly how the
requested money will be spent, exactly who will do the work, and when
the promised results can be expected.
Mike Melich and others are working on such plans. Of course no one
can say when the results can
Edmund Storms wrote:
Exactly how would you propose this money be spent and by whom? You
can say, this is not your concern. However, somebody has to
provide the answer.
This is impossible unless the field can agree on what the consensus
thinks is the best approach.
We do not need a
@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The new administration and cold fusion
OK Thomas, suppose your letter is believed and answered. Exactly how
would you propose this money be spent and by whom? You can say, this
is not your concern. However, somebody has to provide the answer
to plan any
further out at this time.
-Mark
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:57 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The new administration and cold fusion
OK Thomas, suppose your letter
: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:57 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The new administration and cold fusion
OK Thomas, suppose your letter is believed and answered. Exactly how
would you propose this money be
spent and by whom? You can say, this is not your concern. However
Edmund Storms wrote:
OK Thomas, suppose your letter is believed and answered. Exactly how
would you propose this money be spent and by whom? You can say, this
is not your concern. However, somebody has to provide the answer.
This is impossible unless the field can agree on what the
Good answer. :-)
On Oct 27, 2008, at 9:03 PM, thomas malloy wrote:
Edmund Storms wrote:
OK Thomas, suppose your letter is believed and answered. Exactly
how would you propose this money be spent and by whom? You can
say, this is not your concern. However, somebody has to provide
the
After the election, I think it would be a good idea for cold fusion
researchers to make a concerted effort to approach the incoming
administration. We should find out who has been tapped for the
secretary of energy and/or who the elected president's energy
advisors are, and try to approach
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:21:26 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
We believe that the federal government should allocate between five
and $10 million a year to this research. Many qualified fellow
researchers would like to perform cold fusion research, but they have
not been
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 October 2008 20:21
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:The new administration and cold fusion
After the election, I think it would be a good idea for cold fusion
researchers to make a concerted effort to approach the incoming
administration. We should find out who has
Remi,
Add to the list... NO MONEY .. and you have a better picture to the new regime.
Richard
I assume Obama will win. This is probably good news for us. His people are
highly in tune with technology and change.
A liberal broad church. No Creationists, lobby, war or mad greedy
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 October 2008 22:03
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The new administration and cold fusion
Remi,
Add to the list... NO MONEY .. and you have a better picture to the new
regime.
Richard
I assume Obama will win. This is probably good news for us. His
: Remi Cornwall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 October 2008 22:39
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:The new administration and cold fusion
Print gov. bonds, print money. Joe Soap picks the tax bill up in the future.
It's tough sh.t, you want free market funny money instead? Just
Okay, people, let's have a serious discussion of this. The election is just
around the corner, and we should have the letter ready on day one, as the
politicians say. Let's hear some suggestions -- wording, goals, people we
should send it to, etc.
I want to make it clear that I am not proposing
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