Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-30 Thread Michael Foster
I think the most interesting thing about limelight is how almost all the emitted radiation seems to be in the visible spectrum. Carbon arc, for example, has lots of UV and IR for the same amount of energy input. Don't know the explanation for that. Those thorium gas mantles seem to have the

Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-30 Thread Michael Foster
I can just see the oxygen and hydrogen lines running throughout my house, with the solar panels powering the electrolysis cell outside. There would be little pieces of marble clamped onto ceramic stand-offs with tiny torches aimed at them. "Did you change the marble chips this week, Honey?

Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-30 Thread Jeff Driscoll
And the power of that incandescent spectrum could be anomalous and could be from the creation of Mills' hydrinos. I wanted to investigate hydrogen gas + calcium oxide "limelight" but ran out of time and money 2 years ago. I got one data point from my calorimeter that didn't show any excess heat

Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-30 Thread Michael Foster
Sorry Bob, I shouldn't have referred to my little ad hoc experiment as an "investigation". It was more like, "What if I look at a lime light with a hand held spectroscope to see what's there?" What I saw was what you'd expect to see: Dim calcium and hydrogen lines along with the ever-present

RE: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-29 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ? On Saturday, July 25, 2020, 03:18:17 PM UTC, Jones Beene wrote: >Wiki has its entry under "Oxyhydrogen" but the explosive mixture has also been >called HHO, "knallgas," town gas, "common

Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-28 Thread Jones Beene
Michael Foster wrote: > Am I the only one on this list to make a limelight? It's pretty easy. Apply > an oxyhydrogen torch to a piece of marble, limestone or sea shell and the > calcium carbonate is converted to calcium oxide on the spot. The resulting > brilliant white light is a really

Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-28 Thread Michael Foster
On Saturday, July 25, 2020, 03:18:17 PM UTC, Jones Beene wrote: >Wiki has its entry under "Oxyhydrogen" but the explosive mixture has also been >called HHO, "knallgas," town gas, "common manifold electrolysis" and more. Maybe Thomas Gas is the breakthrough which will open the subject up

Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-28 Thread Michael Foster
On Saturday, July 25, 2020, 03:18:17 PM UTC, Jones Beene wrote: >Wiki has its entry under "Oxyhydrogen" but the explosive mixture has also been >called HHO, "knallgas," town gas, "common manifold electrolysis" and more. Maybe Thomas Gas is the breakthrough which will open the

Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-28 Thread Michael Foster
On Saturday, July 25, 2020, 03:18:17 PM UTC, Jones Beene wrote: >Wiki has its entry under "Oxyhydrogen" but the explosive mixture has also been >called HHO, "knallgas," town gas, "common manifold electrolysis" and more. Maybe Thomas Gas is the breakthrough which will open the subject up

Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-25 Thread Jones Beene
Nigel Dyer wrote: > This has much the same feel as Brown's gas, including similar supposed > health benefits that others have claimed for Browns gas. Another option is Santilli's "magnegas" but it contains a significant amount of carbon monoxide. Yet there is a point to be made that there

Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-25 Thread Nigel Dyer
This has much the same feel as Brown's gas, including similar supposed health benefits that others have claimed for Browns gas. Nigel On 22/07/2020 14:57, Jones Beene wrote: This turned up today - a "new" hydrogen based fuel... shades of Brown's Gas ? https://thomasinstitute.weebly.com/

Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-22 Thread Robin
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 22 Jul 2020 21:39:22 + (UTC): Hi, [snip] If you mix hydronium cations with hydrino hydride, the excess proton from the hydronium will combine with the hydrino-hydride to create a hydrino molecule, releasing a lot of energy in the process. It won't

Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-22 Thread Jones Beene
Robin wrote: One typical sign of BS is that they can't distinguish between L & kg. Quote:- "Seconds or 400 liters per hour ( 9,600 kgs in 24 hours) at 20 psi." also, good luck trying to compress positively charged ions. :) Well, we could cut them some slack by assuming that the density is

Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-22 Thread Robin
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 22 Jul 2020 13:57:20 + (UTC): Hi, [snip] One typical sign of BS is that they can't distinguish between L & kg. Quote:- "Seconds or 400 liters per hour ( 9,600 kgs in 24 hours) at 20 psi." also, good luck trying to compress positively charged

Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-22 Thread Jones Beene
Terry Blanton wrote: > Did you check out the article they referenced: https://phys.org/news/2020-07-liquid-hydrogen-oxygen-molecules.html  > Considering the energy densities envolved, it looks more like HP than dense > H2. Yes, that reference is interesting in a general way, but in terms

Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-22 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 9:57 AM Jones Beene wrote: > > This turned up today - a "new" hydrogen based fuel... shades of Brown's Gas ? > > https://thomasinstitute.weebly.com/ Very interesting, Mr. Beene. I filled out the contact information and will let you know if I hear from them. I must admit

[Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-22 Thread Jones Beene
This turned up today - a "new" hydrogen based fuel... shades of Brown's Gas ? https://thomasinstitute.weebly.com/ Thomas Gas has all the hallmarks of the typical alternative energy scam, including no independent verification, no useful data, no peer reviewed paper and absurd health claims. But