Re: [Vo]:group seeks to discredit Rossi

2011-02-08 Thread Horace Heffner
A few spikes in power from a 230 V source, due to a few brief shorts, can not explain a half hour's production of heat. Also, resistors typically fail to an open circuit. Hydrogen burning is not a good explanation either, because the hydrogen use was monitored. The experiment is said to

Re: [Vo]:group seeks to discredit Rossi

2011-02-08 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 02/08/2011 07:10 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: A few spikes in power from a 230 V source, due to a few brief shorts, can not explain a half hour's production of heat. Also, resistors typically fail to an open circuit. Hydrogen burning is not a good explanation either, because the hydrogen

Re: [Vo]:group seeks to discredit Rossi

2011-02-07 Thread Horace Heffner
On Feb 6, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Rich Murray wrote: I just posted this comment on 22passi.blogspot.com Join vort...@eskimo.com for posts on all sides of this and similar claims. I am Rich Murray, rmfor...@gmail.com , and have suggested Feb. 5 and 6 that the Rossi device may have internal leaks

Re: [Vo]:group seeks to discredit Rossi

2011-02-07 Thread Rich Murray
Well, Horace, there were a series of spikes on the input electric power record in Test 1 on Dec. 16. And in Test 2 on Jan. 14, a catastrophic welding failure on a heating resister... In science, experimenters largely find only what they make an effort to find. Leaks and resulting shorts could

Re: [Vo]:group seeks to discredit Rossi

2011-02-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:28 PM 2/6/2011, Harry Veeder wrote: Based on this google translation it seems the Italian Committee Against the Claims of the Paranormal is seeking to discredit Rossi et al.

Re: [Vo]:group seeks to discredit Rossi

2011-02-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:27 PM 2/6/2011, Rich Murray wrote: I am Rich Murray, rmfor...@gmail.com , and have suggested Feb. 5 and 6 that the Rossi device may have internal leaks that cause the electric heater to short out to the output water, electrolyzing water into hydrogen and oxygen in the cell and messing up

Re: [Vo]:group seeks to discredit Rossi

2011-02-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Tritium and excess heat, according to Storms, are not well-correlated. I believe they are anti-correlated. Today, some people suggested that tritium may be the product of electrochemical cold fusion with a mixture of light and heavy water. That

Re: [Vo]:group seeks to discredit Rossi

2011-02-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote: Based on this google translation it seems the Italian Committee Against the Claims of the Paranormal is seeking to discredit Rossi et al. That's hysterical. Rossi is a strange fellow but nothing about him strikes me as Paranormal. This is like hiring a

RE: [Vo]:group seeks to discredit Rossi

2011-02-07 Thread Mark Iverson
@eskimo.com; Rich Murray; Rich Murray; michael barron; Sterling D. Allen Subject: Re: [Vo]:group seeks to discredit Rossi ... In other words, this possibility would be *completely irrelevant.* Right now, the Rossi device is a Black Box, with two apparent inputs: electrical power

Re: [Vo]:group seeks to discredit Rossi

2011-02-07 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
SUBJECT: Group seeks to discredit Rossi From Abd: ... But I will note a generic way to fake Rossi's work, others have proposed other possibilities, and, if it's fake, the truth might even be a hybrid. I have no doubt but that it could be done, that even more convincing demonstrations

RE: [Vo]:group seeks to discredit Rossi

2011-02-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:08 PM 2/7/2011, Mark Iverson wrote: Abd: You stated: Right now, the Rossi device is a Black Box, with two apparent inputs: electrical power, as a supposedly measured level, and water, Did you forget the hydrogen? At least I would consider it an input since it is not entirely contained

Re: [Vo]:group seeks to discredit Rossi

2011-02-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:22 PM 2/7/2011, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: Recall the tragic PR mess that transpired when scientists (most of them physicists) in their initial curiosity attempted to independently replicate a chemistry experiment, for which most had little experience in executing, the Pons

[Vo]:group seeks to discredit Rossi

2011-02-06 Thread Harry Veeder
Based on this google translation it seems the Italian Committee Against the Claims of the Paranormal is seeking to discredit Rossi et al.

Re: [Vo]:group seeks to discredit Rossi

2011-02-06 Thread Rich Murray
I just posted this comment on 22passi.blogspot.com Join vort...@eskimo.com for posts on all sides of this and similar claims. I am Rich Murray, rmfor...@gmail.com , and have suggested Feb. 5 and 6 that the Rossi device may have internal leaks that cause the electric heater to short out to the