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On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Jones Beene wrote: The Lugano reactor did not produce nickel-62 as ash, which is what AR wants > the world to believe. The nearly pure isotope was there from the start. What you say may be true. Bob Higgins's interpretation of the strange

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I don't get it. Dump the 1 MW of heat energy into an Olympic sized swimming pool and in a few days it would be uncomfortably hot.. in 9 days the whole pool would be boiling. If he used diesel for the input energy, the test would be conclusive in days. What are they doing for the other 11 months?

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From: Teslaalset * Rossi does not have any obligations to anyone except probably Darden because he invested in his technology development. He is an entrepreneur and not somebody who is paid by society… Give Rossi a bit more credit on what he shares and what he doesn’t share. From his

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Teslaalset wrote: Rossi does not have any obligations to anyone except probably Darden > because he invested in his technology development. He is an entrepreneur > and not somebody who is payed by society. What he tells us and what he > doesn’t tell us is up to him.

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Rossi does not have any obligations to anyone except probably Darden because he invested in his technology development. He is an entrepreneur and not somebody who is payed by society. What he tells us and what he doesn’t tell us is up to him. The field he is trying to explore is unique and

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My guess is that this test is to determine if the customer is going to convert an entire factory boilers to this unproven technology. Probably to decide whether to make a $50,000,000 investment or more. Probably doesn't care how it works. :-) Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

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Russ George wrote: What part of my qualifying word about Rossi’s test “as openly” did you not > understand. > I understand perfectly, but I disagree. He has not been very open. He has repeatedly withheld critical details. He has refused to answer questions, or to allow

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Having said all that . . . I believe that Rossi took part in the first Levi experiment, which was pretty good. He deserves credit for that. He reportedly played no role in Lugano. Perhaps it would have been better if he had. His work is sometimes sloppy, but I have seen worse. I guess that is

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computer code everywhere. From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 11:47 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:the expected LENR Surprise Rossi's long time test over!Re: Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com>

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Russ George wrote: > I for one have no end of admiration for Rossi in performing his test so > diligently and as openly as he has done. > He has not been open. He has withheld many critical details. The tests he has published have been poorly done and not convincing, in

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To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:the expected LENR Surprise Rossi's long time test over!Re: Jed, I would expect the 350-day term to be a condition in some kind of agreement, e.g. something between IH and Rossi. To me it looks like a condition set up by managers, not engineers, who want

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Jed, I would expect the 350-day term to be a condition in some kind of agreement, e.g. something between IH and Rossi. To me it looks like a condition set up by managers, not engineers, who want to find a water proof condition for making sure the technology is valid, not only for themselves but

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wrote: > That may be true of normal commercial equipment that has already had the > teething problems removed, and where one may expect consistent action. > However > that is not likely to be the case with Rossi's reactor. > If it works for an hour, any HVAC engineer could

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In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 20 Feb 2016 10:17:21 -0500: Hi, [snip] >I think this report is odd because -- > >1. As I said before, it should not take a year to test the machine. Any >HVAC engineer can confirm it is producing heat in a few hours. That may be true of normal

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What I remember, the power consumed by the E-Cat was to be compared to the power consumed by the customers past boiler. The bill came from the electric company. On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 11:20 AM, H LV wrote: > BTW, last December Rossi said on his blog that he was selling

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BTW, last December Rossi said on his blog that he was selling heat to the customer. For some reason this statement didn't seem to raise any eyebrows. It must mean the customer was not spending any money on energy to run the reactor and that Rossi could potentially sell the heat at a loss to keep

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While I have plenty of reasons to criticize the means of analysis of the Lugano experiment, the time it took to release the report is not something I would criticize. The analysis of the ash could only be conducted after the experiment was completed. After termination of the experiment,

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The year long test... On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Axil Axil wrote: > > >> The report is the sole responsibility of the nuclear engineering expert. >> > > Which report do you mean? Lugano? The authors are not all nuclear >

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Axil Axil wrote: > The report is the sole responsibility of the nuclear engineering expert. > Which report do you mean? Lugano? The authors are not all nuclear engineers. I do not know who caused it to take so long. I do know that professors tend to be late writing papers.

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The report is the sole responsibility of the nuclear engineering expert. There is nothing in the nuclear business that is done quickly and it is always hugely overpriced and way behind schedule. That is the nuclear culture, the prima donnas of engineering. On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Jed

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This report probably involves an audit as well. Harry On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I think this report is odd because -- > > 1. As I said before, it should not take a year to test the machine. Any > HVAC engineer can confirm it is producing

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dear Jed, I am asking for permission to quote your message as it is - in my blog now. Thanks Peter On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I think this report is odd because -- > > 1. As I said before, it should not take a year to test the machine. Any >

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I think this report is odd because -- 1. As I said before, it should not take a year to test the machine. Any HVAC engineer can confirm it is producing heat in a few hours. Perhaps it takes a year to determine reliability, but as I said before, reliability is not an issue with a first-generation

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I don't think he is anything. It is just that it seems a wast of time following him. 2016-02-18 15:46 GMT-02:00 a.ashfield : > [image: Boxbe] This message is eligible > for Automatic Cleanup! (a.ashfi...@verizon.net) Add cleanup rule >

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Cold fusion have been discovered by many people since the time of Tesla, but all these inventions have gone down the tubes because the inventors were not able and/or willing to commercialize their invention. Papp had a great product but he used it as a means to extort money out of investors to

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Daniel Rocha, That's pathetic. Who cares if you view Rossi guilty before being proved innocent?

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I think it is practical to assume that Rossi will never come up with anything. I mean practical because: 1.We won't waste time reading his stuff, unless he releases anything, and think for ourselves 2.He may not be able to release anything, due a large number of reasons, even excluding completely

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Rossi says the report will take about a month and there will be no furthers news given until the independent report is published (available?) He seems to be concentrating on the E-Cat X now and says he hopes there will be an industrial version in operation at a customer this year. He says

[Vo]:the expected LENR Surprise Rossi's long time test over!

We will learn interesting things, slowly Let's keep each other updated. http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/02/feb-18-2016-lenr-just-info-this-time.html Do not forget, there is life and news in LENR beyond Rossi too. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com