Re: [Vo]:vortex mass

2015-02-04 Thread Bob Cook
field. Bob - Original Message - From: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:vortex mass This exchange got me thinking about how mass is represented mathematically. Newton wrote his Principia and formulated his

Re: [Vo]:vortex mass

2015-02-04 Thread David Roberson
frobertc...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Feb 4, 2015 12:26 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:vortex mass Harry-- Angular momentum, which is mass moving in a circle or other orbit around some center point, has a vector quantity associated with it and is recognized as related to spin

Re: [Vo]:vortex mass

2015-02-04 Thread H Veeder
This exchange got me thinking about how mass is represented mathematically. Newton wrote his Principia and formulated his three laws of motion before the invention of vector algebra. Bearing this in mind, I would argue the only quantity in Newton's principia which posseses vector-like attributes

Re: [Vo]:vortex mass

2015-02-03 Thread John Berry
I think they have Eric, if you put a bunch of photons in a reflective box, the resistance to acceleration of the box is increased by the presence of the photons just consider the blue/red shifting of the energy of the reflecting photons. And I believe it is considered likely that photons also

Re: [Vo]:vortex mass

2015-02-03 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 7:54 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: It would have been a surprise to find that nanovortices did not have mass since they obviously have energy. Mass is a tricky thing. Photons have no rest mass, for example, even though they can carry as much energy as you

Re: [Vo]:vortex mass

2015-02-03 Thread Bob Cook
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:vortex mass On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 7:54 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: It would have been a surprise to find that nanovortices did not have mass since they obviously have energy. Mass

Re: [Vo]:vortex mass

2015-02-03 Thread Bob Cook
- Original Message - From: Bob Cook To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:vortex mass Dave-- That a correct assessment IMHO. In addition the idea that the energy associated with the decay of a vortex escapes the system as a high

Re: [Vo]:vortex mass

2015-02-03 Thread David Roberson
]:vortex mass On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 7:54 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: It would have been a surprise to find that nanovortices did not have mass since they obviously have energy. Mass is a tricky thing. Photons have no rest mass, for example, even though they can carry

Re: [Vo]:vortex mass

2015-02-03 Thread David Roberson
it becomes a static magnetic or electric field. In that case it is no longer a photon. Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Feb 4, 2015 2:05 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:vortex mass On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:43 PM

Re: [Vo]:vortex mass

2015-02-03 Thread David Roberson
...@aol.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Feb 4, 2015 1:04 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:vortex mass Photons may not have rest mass, but they do carry momentum and energy. These parameters are at a magnitude determined by E=MC^2. Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker

Re: [Vo]:vortex mass

2015-02-03 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Photons are never at rest as far as I know. One question I have -- is there anything keeping them from being considered at rest within their own frame of reference? Eric

Re: [Vo]:vortex mass

2015-02-03 Thread Axil Axil
https://carnegiescience.edu/news/cosmic_accounting_reveals_missing_light_crisis The extreme ultraviolet light source crisis could indicate LENR is the cause of both Dark Matter and Dark Energy. LENR could be blowing the universe apart with the production of all this XUV over the last few billion

Re: [Vo]:vortex mass

2015-02-03 Thread David Roberson
...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 9:53 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:vortex mass https://carnegiescience.edu/news/cosmic_accounting_reveals_missing_light_crisis The extreme ultraviolet light source crisis could indicate LENR is the cause of both Dark Matter and Dark

[Vo]:vortex mass

2015-02-02 Thread Axil Axil
http://phys.org/news/2015-02-nanovortices.html Nanovortices have mass. This has profound implications for the characterization of cosmic LENR. There is evidence that space is filled with excited hydrogen and helium. These vast areas between galaxies form dusty plasma that produce extreme

Re: [Vo]:vortex mass

2015-02-02 Thread Axil Axil
see the following for tha anapole theory of dark matter http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2013/06/dark-matter/ See the following for the Bec theory of dark matter http://scitechdaily.com/reinterpretation-cold-dark-matter-bose-einstein-condensate On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Axil Axil