Re: ICCF-11 papers are depressing

2005-05-05 Thread Mitchell Swartz
At 05:43 PM 5/2/2005, Rothwellwrote: This field is dying, and I cannot think of any way to save it. - Jed Utter nonsense. Cold fusion research and development is (and has been) very much alive. Success in the field requires advanced calculus, metallurgy and engineering. Much will be covered at

Re: ICCF-11 papers are depressing

2005-05-04 Thread Steven Krivit
Wow Ed I don't think I've ever heard such optimism from you. It is certainly welcome! s At 09:42 AM 5/3/2005 -0600, you wrote: Quite the opposite, Jed. The field is moving forward on several fronts. The field has now changed in two important ways. People who have had some success are

RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing

2005-05-03 Thread Frederick Sparber
Michael Foster wrote: I wish everyone would give up on the electrolysis work. I think it's just an interesting dead end. No way to scale it up commercially. Agreed. Too much energyinvested into getting the effect. A bit soon to say anything for certain, but the 10 stacked (tissue paper

RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing

2005-05-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michael Foster wrote: I wouldn't be so depressed if I were you. There are plenty of us out there doing CF research with very encouraging results who are just not publishing anything until the patent situation changes. Frankly, I doubt there are any that could rival Szpak or Iwamura I wish

Re: ICCF-11 papers are depressing

2005-05-03 Thread Edmund Storms
Jed Rothwell wrote: These ICCF-11 papers are depressing. There are only a few experimental papers. Most are reviews of old work, or papers about theory. As far as I can tell, most of the theory is of the crackpot variety, and usually about subjects unrelated to CF, such as POSSIBLE NUCLEAR

RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing

2005-05-03 Thread Keith Nagel
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:07 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing Michael Foster wrote: I wish everyone would give up on the electrolysis work. I think it's just an interesting dead end. No way to scale it up commercially. Agreed

RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing

2005-05-03 Thread Michael Foster
--- On Tue 05/03, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Foster wrote; I wouldn't be so depressed if I were you. There are plenty of us out there doing CF research with very encouraging results who are just not publishing anything until the patent situation changes. Frankly, I

ICCF-11 papers are depressing

2005-05-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
These ICCF-11 papers are depressing. There are only a few experimental papers. Most are reviews of old work, or papers about theory. As far as I can tell, most of the theory is of the crackpot variety, and usually about subjects unrelated to CF, such as POSSIBLE NUCLEAR TRANSMUTATION

Re: ICCF-11 papers are depressing

2005-05-02 Thread Steven Krivit
Hmmm. Not good. At 05:43 PM 5/2/2005 -0400, you wrote: These ICCF-11 papers are depressing. There are only a few experimental papers. Most are reviews of old work, or papers about theory. As far as I can tell, most of the theory is of the crackpot variety, and usually about subjects unrelated

RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing

2005-05-02 Thread Michael Foster
. No way to scale it up commercially. M. --- On Mon 05/02, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These ICCF-11 papers are depressing. There are only a few experimental papers. Most are reviews of old work, or papers about theory. As far as I can tell, most of the theory is of the crackpot

RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing

2005-05-02 Thread Keith Nagel
- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 5:44 PM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Subject: ICCF-11 papers are depressing These ICCF-11 papers are depressing. There are only a few experimental papers. Most are reviews of old work, or papers about theory. As far as I can