Horace,
I Thank you for all your help and won't contact you further
regarding this material.
Best Regards
Fran
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On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
This is not exactly in the context of this thread, but I stumbled
across a 25 year old paper by one of our favorite visionaries –
Robert Forward (well named) and it could be updated, based on new
research:
, their existence or not does not depend on
being in Casimir cavities.
Best Regards
Fran
From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:19 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the
opposite direction from
vs outside as it will
contract in either direction.
Best Regards
Fran
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From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:05 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite
direction from event
Haven't had time to read all this interesting thread, just a couple
things I noticed:
Frank: how can you keep talking about the Lorentz contraction if the
Lorentz transform doesn't make sense to you?
Stephen: your expression of the Lorentz transform misses the dot
product and the (vertical) t x
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite
direction from event horizon
Haven't had time to read all this interesting thread, just a couple
things I noticed:
Frank: how can you keep talking about the Lorentz contraction if the
Lorentz transform
On Aug 19, 2009, at 4:30 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:
Haven't had time to read all this interesting thread,
Yes. You are apparently 8 days behind.
just a couple
things I noticed:
Frank: how can you keep talking about the Lorentz contraction if the
Lorentz transform doesn't make sense to
Had looked unsuccesssfully for Turing in this thread but hadn't read
that other thread, as Harbach Jak doesn't pass the Turing test with me
;)
Michel
2009/8/19 Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net:
On Aug 19, 2009, at 4:30 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:
Haven't had time to read all this
: Sunday, August 09, 2009 2:28 AM
To: Vortex-L
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite
direction from event horizon
I just wrote: In the case of the ZPF the particles are virtual
electrons.
It should have read: In the case of the ZPF the particles are
virtual
: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 2:28 AM
To: Vortex-L
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite
direction from event horizon
I just wrote: In the case of the ZPF the particles are virtual
electrons.
It should have read
On Aug 18, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
Horace,
QED supporters
What QED supporters?
don't like
I don't think it is a matter of taste or value judgement. It's about
precision in communication.
when I refer to vacuum fluctuations
which are also known as virtual
On Aug 18, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
Horace,
I added the following paragraph to my theory after
discovering a paper describing a Casimir cavity created equivalence.
An interesting concept, but, as they imply, a force on such a small
order requires heroic efforts
Horace,
Great Reply!
Thank You
Fran
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:10 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite
direction from event horizon
This is not exactly in the context of this thread, but I stumbled across a
25 year old paper by one of our favorite visionaries - Robert Forward (well
named) and it could be updated, based on new research:
http://prola.aps.org/abstract/PRB/v30/i4/p1700_1
A pair of conducting plates at
state depending on your perspective.
Best Regards
Fran
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From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:19 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite
direction from event horizon
I had to change to plain text because my ISP rejected sending this
message in rich text, probably due to banned links.
On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:51 AM, Frank Roarty wrote:
On Saturday, August 08, 2009 Horace Heffner wrote
[Snip]
The snip you provide seems irrelevant to the issue at hand. The
I just wrote: In the case of the ZPF the particles are virtual
electrons.
It should have read: In the case of the ZPF the particles are
virtual photons.
My fingers have their own sub-processor.
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
On Aug 9, 2009, at 6:58 AM, Frank wrote:
The premise IS my theory that a Casimir cavity stretches space-
time into a “Hill” as opposed to a “Well” based on the following.
1. Naudts and Bourgoin math that hydrino can exist in a cavity
only has a relativistic solution. So spatially the
OK,
Horace,
I know I need some help which is why, as Jones pointed out I
brought it here. It sounds like you now follow my miracle path- Right or
wrong you caused me to at least organize all the dots I am trying to connect
into a format that can be followed. You rightly point out the
: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:24 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the
opposite direction from event horizon
You would not say the red light is up-converted as it is passed
through the filter?
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http
On Saturday, August 08, 2009 Horace Heffner wrote
[Snip]
The snip you provide seems irrelevant to the issue at hand. The space
between conductive plates having certain wavelengths excluded therein is
analogous to the space beyond the glass on the side opposed to the light
source also having
On Wednesday, July 22, 2009 Stephen A. Lawrence wrote
I have no idea what you mean by longer flux twisted on the time axis;
I have no idea what it means to twist something on the time axis. Could
you show the transform you have in mind?
For example, for the Lorentz transform, with c=1 and
On Aug 7, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
Frank,
If white light shines through a blue glass window how would you
describe the process and result?
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
through equivalence).
Best Regards
Fran
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net]
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 9:24 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite
direction from event horizon
On Aug 7
On Aug 7, 2009, at 6:35 PM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
Horace,
I think you are implying something incongruous with my proposal
but I don't get the connection. I know suggesting equivalence
bounded by
Casimir plates instead of deep gravity well is a lot to swallow but
Christian Beck
Horace,
I feel like I am falling into a trap here but a blue filter
restricts all wavelengths but blue.
Best Regards
Fran
If white light shines through a blue glass window how would you
describe the process and result?
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
You would not say the red light is up-converted as it is passed
through the filter?
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
On Aug 7, 2009, at 6:46 PM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
Horace,
I feel like I am falling into a trap here but a blue filter
restricts
From: Roarty, Francis X
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:43 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite
direction from event horizon
Horace,
No, glass is not conductive and you don't have
On Jul 27, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
Horace
The half-life of potassium 40 is 1.3 billion years... It is not
logical to expect a cavity effect to cause any detectable change in
the amount of 40K.
Yes, we would be looking for a dramatic change in the decay rate as
measured
a grid of interlocking ceramic Casimir cavities,
especially when high electrostatic voltage is applied.
From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:10 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction
: Friday, July 24, 2009 2:15 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite
direction from event horizon
Jones Beene wrote:
However, getting a massive charged particle to transverse a Casimir gap
would be difficult
Akshully How about
Given that tritium is expensive, toxic, and tightly controlled and that
there is no requirement for a gas
- and given that you are interested in Mills work and that potassium is a
BLP catalyst, and that 40K is mildly radioactive and available in enriched
form and has a low melting point.
Get
On Jul 27, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
Given that tritium is expensive, toxic, and tightly controlled and
that
there is no requirement for a gas
- and given that you are interested in Mills work and that
potassium is a
BLP catalyst, and that 40K is mildly radioactive and
Technetium would also be a handy element to use to see if Barker's
method of enhancing alpha decay also works for positron emission
decay. See United States Patent 5,076,971 Barker Dec. 31, 1991,
Method for enhancing alpha decay in radioactive materials,Inventors:
Barker; William A. (Los
Horace
The half-life of potassium 40 is 1.3 billion years... It is not logical to
expect a cavity effect to cause any detectable change in the amount of 40K.
Yes, we would be looking for a dramatic change in the decay rate as measured in
the average microrem per hour, or whatever, but
, 2009 10:55 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite
direction from event horizon
On Jul 23, 2009, at 6:01 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
By the way, the patent which apparently started Frank off on this, and
the effort to produce
I know Horace and Steven have been commenting on this topic critically but I
kind of got what Frank was on about the first time (in amongst the confusing
word salad). The event horizon stuff escapes me... Here is (I think) a
testable hypothesis that would offer support to this time dilation
Stephen wrote:
Let's stop right there. The 'present', for any observer, has zero thickness
along that observer's
time axis.
What is zero thickness for a human could be a lifetime at the subatomic level...
It all depends on what scale you're talking about... And don't mix scales!
-Mark
Yes, but no doubt Nick is a fan of Lost and understand the intricacies of
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Physics
Serious, folks - Frank has a fascinating alternative to Mills, and it is a
bit unfair to expect from him a perfectly-formed and error-free theory at
this point in time - even in
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Jones Beene wrote:
However, getting a massive charged particle to transverse a Casimir gap
would be difficult
Akshully How about, forget the massive bit, just substitute
tritium oxide for deuterium oxide and load any-old-material with Casimir
sized
PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite
direction from event horizon
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Jones Beene wrote:
However, getting a massive charged particle to transverse a Casimir
gap
would be difficult
Akshully How
On Jul 22, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
I'm sorry, I can't make sense of this.
Yes, so far it is just seemingly a random word salad. My first
inkling was it might be a Touring test. It is indeed a problem when
a new theory is unnecessarily cloaked in an author's
it is not too late for you
Fran
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:50 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite
direction from event horizon
On Jul 22, 2009, at 7:19 PM
frank wrote:
I'm sorry, I can't make sense of this.
If tau is the local time for a tiny observer located inside the cavity,
and t is time for an external observer, what's dt/dtau?
And why should it be anything other than 1?
*Because it is a protected harbour where
karma.
Hope it is not too late for you
Fran
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:50 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite
direction from event horizon
On Jul
Roarty, Francis X wrote:
Horrace- My mistake, It was Steven's comment I took offense to when he
made inquiries without reading the references and then remarked I'd
like to see some of your terms defined a bit better before I take
time to read your blog or look at animations. I stopped
I thought this all sounded familiar:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6156
Terry
Terry Blanton wrote:
I thought this all sounded familiar:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6156
Terry
Thanks for the ref, Terry. It sheds a little light on this.
Funny, my first thought was that Frank sounded a whole lot more coherent
on that thread than he has here -- and then
By the way, the patent which apparently started Frank off on this, and
the effort to produce a device based on it, are described here:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Jovion_Corporation_and_Zero_Point_Energy
It's an interesting concept: squash atoms through tiny cavities which
force them
Horace Heffner wrote:
Does your theory make any testable quantitative or qualitative predictions?
If it does not, it isn't a theory as far as I am concerned. It is
empty speculation.
Does it provide any assistance with engineering a practical energy
producing device?
This is the only
Yeah, I posted something on this back in April:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg31261.html
Terry
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Stephen A. Lawrencesa...@pobox.com wrote:
By the way, the patent which apparently started Frank off on this, and
the effort to produce a
On Jul 23, 2009, at 6:01 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
By the way, the patent which apparently started Frank off on this, and
the effort to produce a device based on it, are described here:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/
Directory:Jovion_Corporation_and_Zero_Point_Energy
It's an
On Jul 23, 2009, at 3:50 AM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
Horace,
I don't recognize you as qualified to make such assertions, Most
physicists I communicate with made some effort but you appear
incapable
while both demanding and condescending. I don't know how your persona
developed but
Hmm -- Horace, I had a question about a somewhat different proposal.
You have proposed that if we let two plates come together, pushed by the
Casimir force, then slide them apart sideways, and then repeat, we can
get energy out of the cycle.
Now, I don't pretend to understand the Casimir effect
Lorentz contraction in the opposite
direction from event horizon
On Jul 23, 2009, at 3:50 AM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
Horace,
I don't recognize you as qualified to make such assertions, Most
physicists I communicate with made some effort but you appear
incapable
while both demanding
Roarty, Francis X wrote:
Horrace,
Horace,
Your criticism was harsher but constructive and you read my information
where as Steven just implied his time was much more valuable and
wouldn't bother reading my support blogs unless I made a better case--
You seem to have forgotten that I also
Roarty, Francis X wrote:
I am proposing that Lorentz contraction
can occur in the opposite direction creating a time dilation where the
gas diffused in a Casimir cavity appears to accelerate while the orbital
diameter quite correctly calculates smaller than ground state because it
is
On Jul 22, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
The June 2009 LENR seminar at University of Missouri presenters
kept an
open mind towards the methods employed to produce anomalous heat. The
numerous reports of excess heat manifestations across bubble fusion,
LENR and Casimir cavities
I wrote: You might find the references interesting or useful in
developing your theory.
By the above I meant the references cited in the Atomic Expansion
Hypothesis article at:
http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/AtomicExpansion.pdf
namely:
1. H. E. Puthoff, Everything for Nothing, New. Sci.,
I have a better explanation with animation at http://byzipp.com/energy/ but
basically it is just trig. I am saying that our perspective relative to the
equivalent speed approaching an event horizon has a corollary in the Casimir
cavity where I propose all vacuum fluctuations are up converted as
Frank wrote:
I have a better explanation with animation at http://byzipp.com/energy/ but
basically it is just trig. I am saying that our perspective relative to the
equivalent speed approaching an event horizon has a corollary in the Casimir
cavity where I propose all vacuum fluctuations are
I'm sorry, I can't make sense of this.
If tau is the local time for a tiny observer located inside the cavity,
and t is time for an external observer, what's dt/dtau?
And why should it be anything other than 1?
Because it is a protected harbour where vacuum
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