Re: [Vo]:beyond critical

2009-06-21 Thread Terry Blanton
CUTE and CRIEPI? On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Speaking of how politics and energy overlap... Here is a supercritical way that the DoE could reduce natural gas usage significantly: http://www.r744.com/knowledge/faq/files/ecocute_all.pdf Why

Re: [Vo]:beyond critical

2009-06-21 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jun 21, 2009, at 8:12 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Speaking of how politics and energy overlap... Here is a supercritical way that the DoE could reduce natural gas usage significantly: http://www.r744.com/knowledge/faq/files/ecocute_all.pdf Why aren't we doing this here, or even talking

Re: [Vo]:beyond critical

2009-06-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
This article describes a Japanese heat pump to heat water, which reduces gas consumption by 30% compared to a natural gas fired heater. That's pretty good. It might find a market in urban areas or for large buildings, which is what the prototype in the article appears to show. However, for most

Re: [Vo]:beyond critical

2009-06-21 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 21, 2009, at 6:12 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Speaking of how politics and energy overlap... Here is a supercritical way that the DoE could reduce natural gas usage significantly: http://www.r744.com/knowledge/faq/files/ecocute_all.pdf The heat pump is run by electricity. Right now

RE: [Vo]:beyond critical

2009-06-21 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Horace Heffner The heat pump is run by electricity. Right now electric energy costs about 3 times as much as gas, so a 30 percent energy improvement is not much economically speaking. Yes and no. If gas were not a limited resource, in effect controlled by