Re: [Vo]:Translation of K. Kaneko article in Nikkei about Iwamura et al.

Perhaps I should point out that some of the statements in this newspaper article are inaccurate. For example: Iwamura told me that he has not put aside transmutation experiments. He is still doing some. As far as I know the US Patent Office does not reject applications because they appear

Re: [Vo]:Translation of K. Kaneko article in Nikkei about Iwamura et al.

Iwamura sent me a few corrections which I will make tomorrow. The English name of the institute is: “Research Center for Electron Photon Science, Tohoku University”

Re: [Vo]: Translation of Russian paper on Ni-H experiment

Ok Harry On Oct 20, 2015 4:16 PM, "Bob Higgins" wrote: >From what I saw of their experiment, the thermocouples (k-type) measuring the two vessels were connected in series so that the measurement that came out on the wires was the temperature difference between the two.

Re: [Vo]: Translation of Russian paper on Ni-H experiment

oven > appears to be a significantly better way to balance the operational > temperature between the two vessels for comparison. > > Dave > > > > -Original Message- > From: H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: T

Re: [Vo]: Translation of Russian paper on Ni-H experiment

I wonder whether they took the exothermic effects of hydrogen absorption into account. On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 2:38 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > What I would like to emphasize is that the first study described here was > an independent, stand-alone observation of excess heat

Re: [Vo]: Translation of Russian paper on Ni-H experiment

H Veeder wrote: It seems to me that based on the given data it is possible to interpret the > temperature difference between the empty vessel and the vessel with "fuel" > ( their quotation marks) as resulting from either endothermic activity or > exothermic activity in the

Re: [Vo]: Translation of Russian paper on Ni-H experiment

It seems to me that based on the given data it is possible to interpret the temperature difference between the empty vessel and the vessel with "fuel" ( their quotation marks) as resulting from either endothermic activity or exothermic activity in the vessel with "fuel". Harry On Mon, Oct 19,

Re: [Vo]: Translation of Russian paper on Ni-H experiment

On Oct 20, 2015 1:41 PM, "Jed Rothwell" wrote: > > H Veeder wrote: > >> It seems to me that based on the given data it is possible to interpret the temperature difference between the empty vessel and the vessel with "fuel" ( their quotation marks) as

Re: [Vo]: Translation of Russian paper on Ni-H experiment

Jed, there is contraditional info around, see: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0360319914002389 (bottom of the page) On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 7:37 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > H Veeder wrote: > > It seems to me that based on the

Re: [Vo]: Translation of Russian paper on Ni-H experiment

015 11:26 am Subject: Re: [Vo]: Translation of Russian paper on Ni-H experiment It seems to me that based on the given data it is possible to interpret the temperature difference between the empty vessel and the vessel with "fuel" ( their quotation marks) as resulting from eithe

Re: [Vo]: Translation of Russian paper on Ni-H experiment

>From what I saw of their experiment, the thermocouples (k-type) measuring the two vessels were connected in series so that the measurement that came out on the wires was the temperature difference between the two. This may be more accurate than having two absolute thermocouples and subtracting

Re: [Vo]: Translation of Russian paper on Ni-H experiment

Note that this work was done in the 1990s, so it was not affected by Rossi. - Jed

Re: [Vo]: Translation of Russian paper on Ni-H experiment

What I would like to emphasize is that the first study described here was an independent, stand-alone observation of excess heat from the Ni-H system. There are not many studies like that. All the ones I know of were inspired by or linked to Mills, Piantelli or Rossi. Such results might be colored

Re: [Vo]: Translation of Russian paper on Ni-H experiment

On Mon, 2015-10-19 at 17:26 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Note that this work was done in the 1990s, so it was not affected by > Rossi. The paper references work in the 90s, but the paper and the latest work, is current. Craig > >

Re: [Vo]: Translation of Russian paper on Ni-H experiment

I believe that the work in this paper is new, but the authors remembered their own previous work with Ni and hydrogen where they saw unexplain-able heat in the 1990s. What distinguishes the new work is the use of LAH in a sealed container. On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

What you say is interesting and possibly explains something of the economic considerations relating to nickel that go into the E-Cat. What caught my interest in the lack of detail about nickel in the patent application cited below went back to the earlier thread on the reliability of the

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

Faced with a working reaction and attempting to optimize it, I am sure Rossi would have explored the reactivity of the individual isotopes of Ni. In the process, he may have found that 62Ni was optimum. I would be surprised if he found out that it was the only isotope that was active. Just to

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

I agree with Bob about the validity of the patent. Unfortunately I believe all patents are ending up in this dilemma. The amount of information is so enormous that it is going to be very hard to defend any patent. In addition there is no way one can get any positive earnings out of the patent

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

If I were Rossi or IH, I would worry more about the validity of his patent due to prior art. There is so much ART that is described over the years in online forums, particularly in Vortex-L, that a search used by any would be patent busting organization would likely turn up amazing prior art

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

I wrote: > In other words, the lack of mention is a small piece of circumstantial > evidence in support of your hunch that 62Ni was added before the blank run > for no obvious operational reason (e.g., so that the ash analysis would be > compromised). Not a smoking gun by any means, but

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Teslaalset wrote: The Ni62 amendments to US2009125444 were sent to the patent office in April > 2013 while Rossi’s patent US9115913B1 originated as filing in March 2012. > US91159B1 does not mention specifically Ni62 in the claims,

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

ICP-MS does digest the entire "sample", but the sample used is typically 1-2 small 100 micron scale particles - not the entire ash or grams of it. So, in the Lugano report on page 45 where they show Particle1 and Particle2 of the ash and the accompanying EDS, it is likely that they only digested

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Bob Higgins wrote: I don't consider this to be subterfuge on Rossi's behalf. I don't think he > ever agreed to full open access to everything from his design. > If that is the case, please remind me never to do business with you! Trust

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

It sounds like there could be a legal house of cards, then, if deception is shown during a patent suit. I remember a recent patent application by Rossi whose description seemed to incorporate large portions of the Lugano report as evidence. I was wondering whether the isotope analysis was

RE: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

Don’t forget that the Lugano report, containing the fallacious isotope data - was apparently submitted directly to the patent office as documentation for obtaining the IP. This detail was mentioned in AR’s blog, IIRC. It is probably one reason that Rossi got the expedited grant (in addition to

RE: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

Excellent hypothesis Bob. This is a million times more likely to have happened than the deception which Rossi is trying to push over on the patent office. My prediction is that the Lugano episode, which is little more than sham PR event, masquerading as science - will cost Rossi, Leonardo an

RE: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

From: Eric Walker Ø I do not assume anything at this point about what Industrial Heat knew or didn't know in connection with Rossi's preparation for the Lugano test. The patent in question is not in their name, so this doesn’t relate to them very much. Given the amount of money

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

Rossi’s patent application WO2009125444 had a major claim change on April 15, 2013 (initiated in the European patent family member EP2259998), stating that the applied Nickel SHALL be Ni62. The discussed matter in this discussion thread could well be tightly related to the amended claims

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

I had included the link to the amended claims in the orginal posting, but it seems including hyperlinks with a substitute does not work at Vortex. Here is the link: javascript:NewPDFWindow('application?documentId=EUIP5C400118284=EP08873805=en=false', 'EUIP5C400118284_EP08873805_en') On Sat, Oct

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

If theory of how the LENR reaction works is included in the Patent, and that theory is later disproved, is the patent invalidated? If this is so, is it not best to keep theory out of a patent? On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Teslaalset wrote: > I had included the

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

In reply to Teslaalset's message of Sat, 3 Oct 2015 20:18:09 +0200: Hi, At that time didn't he still think that the primary reaction was Ni62 + H => Cu63? If so, then specifying Ni62 explicitly would make sense because Cu63 is stable. >Rossi’s patent application WO2009125444 had a major claim

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: This just in. See: > > > http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Attachment/387-Parkhomov-Soshi-20150930-English-1-pdf/ > These comparisons are interesting. But it's pretty unsatisfying that all tests but the Lugano

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

Will someone with an analogical bent find out if there was more fission going on than fusion. It looks like there was an increase in lighter (Z) elements and a reduction in the heavier elements. Nickel which according to Rossi is not a fuel looks like the element that was most likely to be

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

I do not by any means rule out the scenario you propose. I only attempt to draw out its implications. If what you say is what happened, I see several implications. A first implication is that the 62Ni would have had to have been relatively granular and segregated from the "fuel" nickel, even

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

Bob, Interesting point on the SS can being stripped of its protective oxides. In my most recent experiment (with no excess heat seen), the stainless fuel container was extremely shiny after use as if nickel plated. There was a cooler end that appeared to have an oxidized layer. Jack On Fri,

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

Yes, my hypothesis is that the reactor tube was not empty when given to the Lugano team to test - it had been pre-loaded with 62Ni. They did their dummy tests with the inert 62Ni by itself (and no H2). When it came time for Rossi to add the "fuel" powder, a sample of what he was putting in was

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

As I was translating Parkhomov's paper this morning, I was struck by the fact that the other researchers are not seeing any isotopic movement in the Ni in their experiments, while they are seeing minor shifts in the Li isotopic ratio. The big shadow still hanging over the Lugano experiment does

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

I have a intuition that the one 100 micro particle that the Lugano analysts looked at was a one in a million rough event. That particle could never have been manually fabricated by anybody. A human could not have made that particle. It is a miracle of transmutation. On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:48

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

While I was translating Parkhomov's latest presentation, I was struck again by the plethora of elements in the ash that were not in the "fuel". Previously I pleaded through Bob Greenyer to get Parkhomov to give us a slice of his stainless steel fuel can. When the reactor is heated over 1000C in

Re: [Vo]:Translation of Parkhomov slides at recent Soshi meeting

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Bob Higgins wrote: As I was translating Parkhomov's paper this morning, I was struck by the > fact that the other researchers are not seeing any isotopic movement in the > Ni in their experiments, while they are seeing minor shifts in the

Re: [Vo]:translation of Parkhomov 3rd

Could you have a look at conclusion 1.? 50 kWh is 180 mj. Or 5 kWh is 18mj is 5 x 22 eurocent (electicity price) =1 euro= 0.5 liter petrol. Or am i missing ... Marcus Op 27 mrt. 2015 12:17 schreef Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com: with apologies for the delay had PC troubles, made blunders

Re: [Vo]:translation of Parkhomov 3rd

you are right, the error is in the original peter On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Marcus Winckers marcki...@gmail.com wrote: Could you have a look at conclusion 1.? 50 kWh is 180 mj. Or 5 kWh is 18mj is 5 x 22 eurocent (electicity price) =1 euro= 0.5 liter petrol. Or am i missing ...

Re: [Vo]:translation of Parkhomov 3rd

Great work, Bob -- very useful! On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: I went into the Powerpoint file and translated the text and figures of Alexander Parkhomov's latest presentation into English (Thank you Google Translate). Here is a link to the

RE: [Vo]:translation

Peter sez: Dear Italo: I cannot open a camera on our test room, because we make also confidential operations. Only a plant in regular operation in our Customers' concerns is possible. Translated in English this is: you will not see soon working E-cats Reason- they cannot stop the ...

Re: [Vo]:translation

On 2011-12-04 16:19, Peter Gluck wrote: Translated in English this is: you will not see soon working E-cats Reason- they cannot stop the ... webcam when making confidential operations as mixing pixie dust and aqua Tofana to nickel. Should we believe this? That he doesn't want the general

Re: [Vo]:translation

If Rossi's operations are, as it sometimes seems, similar in nature to Steorn's, then it may be sometime before he does another inconclusive demonstration of some type -- if there even is another. Steorn, in their now deleted forum, between increasingly long periods of no news, repeatedly

Re: [Vo]:translation

On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: If Rossi's operations are, as it sometimes seems, similar in nature to Steorn's, then it may be sometime before he does another inconclusive demonstration of some type -- if there even is another.  Steorn, in their now

Re: [Vo]: translation of the Corriere's article (corrected from Google)

Here is a much better translation: Cold fusion: turning point or bluff The E-Cat under scrutiny at the University of Bologna The Physics Researchers: impartial analysis, then the verdict Andrea Rossi and the E-Cat LONDON - It will be the University of Bologna to put the final seal [of