Re: Super colliders

2006-05-08 Thread Steven Krivit
Coincidentally, I saw one of these mythical accelerators firsthand (well, from the 280 freeway) a few weeks ago when I was driving by Stanford. Pretty cool looking high tech thing.

Re: Super colliders

2006-05-08 Thread RC Macaulay
. Meanwhile the Russians and Isrealis have a working device that would scare the daylights out of you. Richard - Original Message - From: Steven Krivit [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 2:52 AM Subject: Re: Super colliders Coincidentally, I saw one

RE: Super colliders

2006-05-08 Thread Mark Iverson
Message- From: Steven Krivit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 11:38 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Super colliders Dearest Grimer, thank you SO much for this insightful, truly awe-inspring answer to the valuable knowledge gained from the insights into particle

Re: Super colliders

2006-05-08 Thread Harry Veeder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_particles Dudes...apparently there is a hypothetical particle named Oh-My-God. Like...Oh-My-God! That is like so cool and weird at the same time. ;-) Harry

RE: Super colliders

2006-05-08 Thread Steven Krivit
At 07:38 AM 5/8/2006, you wrote: Steve: RE: any benefits to society from collider research... Perhaps the fact that there were NO serious answers to your question, is the answer! :-) And taking the implication a little further, perhaps it's a good source of amusement! :-):-) Anybody know a

Re: Super colliders

2006-05-08 Thread Steven Krivit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_particles Dudes...apparently there is a hypothetical particle named Oh-My-God. Like...Oh-My-God! That is like so cool and weird at the same time. ;-) Harry I abject disbelief, I had to look for myself. I'm at a loss for words. s

RE: Super colliders

2006-05-07 Thread Frederick Sparber
Haven't you heard of crash-testing "workfare" Steve? :-) Fred - Original Message - From: Steven Krivit To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: 5/7/2006 10:20:30 AM Subject: Super colliders Can someone please tell me what benefits society has received from collider research? What potential

Re: Super colliders

2006-05-07 Thread Philip Winestone
...producing up to a hundred particles in each collision... By sheer coincidence, that's how many angels can dance on the head of a pin... P. At 09:22 AM 5/7/2006 -0700, you wrote: Can someone please tell me what benefits society has received from collider research? What potential benefits to

Re: Super colliders

2006-05-07 Thread Grimer
At 01:21 pm 07/05/2006 -0400, you wrote: ...producing up to a hundred particles in each collision... By sheer coincidence, that's how many angels can dance on the head of a pin... P. Doing a little research on angels and pins I came across this rather amusing tale which younger Vorts might not

RE: Super colliders

2006-05-07 Thread Steven Krivit
At 09:34 AM 5/7/2006, you wrote: Haven't you heard of crash-testing workfare Steve? :-) Workfare? Actually, no. But now I have. Seems your answer is somewhat tongue in cheek, which I actually enjoyed, but my original question was indeed literal and not rhetorical. (p.s. I don't get the

Re: Super colliders

2006-05-07 Thread Steven Krivit
Oh come on now, Phillip, is no one here taking my question seriously? g At 10:21 AM 5/7/2006, you wrote: ...producing up to a hundred particles in each collision... By sheer coincidence, that's how many angels can dance on the head of a pin... P.

Re: Super colliders

2006-05-07 Thread OrionWorks
Grimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:21 pm 07/05/2006 -0400, you wrote: ...producing up to a hundred particles in each collision... By sheer coincidence, that's how many angels can dance on the head of a pin... P. Doing a little research on angels and pins I came across this

Re: Super colliders

2006-05-07 Thread Philip Winestone
Brilliant kid Now let me see... I bet he's become a Hollywood heartthrob... P. At 07:07 PM 5/7/2006 +0100, you wrote: At 01:21 pm 07/05/2006 -0400, you wrote: ...producing up to a hundred particles in each collision... By sheer coincidence, that's how many angels can dance on the head

Re: Super colliders

2006-05-07 Thread Steven Krivit
Dearest Grimer, thank you SO much for this insightful, truly awe-inspring answer to the valuable knowledge gained from the insights into particle physics. OTOH, I am ROFL and truly appreciate the parable. It actually reminds me of the questions which I, and many others have asked of Martin.

Re: Super colliders

2006-05-07 Thread Harry Veeder
Steven Krivit wrote: At 09:34 AM 5/7/2006, you wrote: Haven't you heard of crash-testing workfare Steve? :-) Workfare? Actually, no. But now I have. Seems your answer is somewhat tongue in cheek, which I actually enjoyed, but my original question was indeed literal and not

Re: Super colliders

2006-05-07 Thread Steven Krivit
Mind you - quite what the parable has to do with angels or pins rather escapes me. 8-) Here you (and I) go: When people want to express total pointlessness, they sometimes say a thing is as silly as arguing over how many angels could dance on the head of a pin.

Re: Super colliders

2006-05-07 Thread RC Macaulay
Steven wrote.. Can someone please tell me what benefits society has received from collider research? Howdy Steven, Central Texas was to be the location of the super collider. Near Waxahachie, the 25 mile dia underground ring was to be the answer to everything how to get a Texan elected

Re: Super colliders

2006-05-07 Thread Steven Krivit
A Plan to Replace the Welfare State Struggling to bring this back on topic, let me say that I saw a particle physicist today on the offramp of the 10 freeway at Roberston with a sign, Will work for a super collider.

Re: Super colliders

2006-05-07 Thread Steven Krivit
I guess this is just another one of those silly questions that I find myself asking. So now its clear. It must be a secret antitrust initiative developed by Burger King, Wendy's and all those who stand for alternatives from McDonalds. s At 11:34 AM 5/7/2006, you wrote: Steven wrote.. Can

Re: Super colliders

2006-05-07 Thread Harry Veeder
Title: Re: Super colliders One can always point to benefits. The question is whether the benefits have/will outweigh the costs. Harry Steven Krivit wrote: Can someone please tell me what benefits society has received from collider research? What potential benefits to humanity may come

Re: Super colliders

2006-05-07 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: Steven Krivit Can someone please tell me what benefits society has received from collider research? What potential benefits to humanity may come from collider research? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_collider

Re: Super colliders

2006-05-07 Thread RC Macaulay
Howdy Steven, You obviously asked the magic question to provoke such a response. Took me a while to wrap my brain completely around those responses.. from pin headed angels to theoretical particle welfare physics where the speed of the growth of the handout is indirectly proportional to the