Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:41:41 -0400: Hi, [snip] What on earth are they thinking of powering these with? Plutonium? - Jed I thought they were considering a small but conventional reactor, similar to those used in nuclear subs. Because it's in an unmanned drone,

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-09 Thread Alain Sepeda
good analysis, but I think it won't pass the common sense barrier. look like those many marketing advertizing, to justify more funding... crazy that deciders accept those crazy ideas while refusing LENR... maybe because LENr is frightening because credible solution, while nuclear drone are just

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
What on earth are they thinking of powering these with? Plutonium? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Axil Axil
Maybe. Pu238. This is what NASA uses for space probes to the outer planets. Very bad stuff. On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: What on earth are they thinking of powering these with? Plutonium? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe. Pu238. This is what NASA uses for space probes to the outer planets. I can't imagine they would use it. The cost is somewhere between $1 million and $10 million per kilogram! Source: Broad, W., U.S. Has Plans To Again Make Own Plutonium, in New

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Axil Axil
This huge cost for a nuclear heat source no matter which one they selectedis extreme motivation to use LENR. One Rossi heat unit only costs a few hundred. On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe. Pu238. This is

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: This huge cost for a nuclear heat source no matter which one they selectedis extreme motivation to use LENR. One Rossi heat unit only costs a few hundred. Sure. I can't imagine trying this without LENR. But I expect the people doing this project have

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Axil Axil
Sure. I can't imagine trying this without LENR. Why does a $12 million nuclear drone make economic sense to the US military? Such a drone can replace a platoon of soldier in Afghanistan. A platoon is a military unit typically composed of two - four sections or squads and containing 16 to 50

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Robert Dorr
Short of using a LENR type device on board a drone, my guess is they would use Americium 241 in an Alpha-Voltaic configuration. At 02:24 PM 4/4/2012, you wrote: Axil Axil mailto:janap...@gmail.comjanap...@gmail.com wrote: This huge cost for a nuclear heat source no matter which one they

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Dorr rod...@comcast.net wrote: Short of using a LENR type device on board a drone, my guess is they would use Americium 241 in an Alpha-Voltaic configuration. Drones are large machines. The engine is about 100 HP in the Predator. (Rotax 914 engine.) Am-241 exists in only small amounts

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Axil Axil
You would need close to a megawatt of heat to get 100 hp at low conversion efficiency. Maybe this is why Rossi is working hard to miniaturize his core unit to the size of a small note book or smaller. In a standard industrial deployment, size of the reactor does not matter much. But when