Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-29 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 11-12-29 12:02 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: On Dec 29, 2011, at 5:17 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 11-12-29 01:57 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: Having said all that, Stephen, please prove you exist. That's a tough one. Descartes's proof was defective, of course -- it proved only that I

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-29 Thread Dr Josef Karthauser
On 29 Dec 2011, at 14:17, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Having said all that, Stephen, please prove you exist. That's a tough one. Descartes's proof was defective, of course -- it proved only that I do not see how I could not exist, not that I could not possibly not exist. Among other

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-29 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 11-12-29 01:57 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com mailto:sa...@pobox.com wrote: On 11-12-28 08:40 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: Unless I'm greatly mistaken, you've accused a number of people of failing to exist. The only

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-29 Thread Susanna Gipp
Come on guys! What the proof is of the existence of this big customer ? A lot of Rossi's words of course, a mysteriuos engineer named Fioravanti (Colonel uh ?) Retired ? Unenployed ? Not appearing anywhere in any phonebook or internet professional board ... ?! Just for the record, Fioravanti is

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-29 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 29, 2011, at 5:17 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 11-12-29 01:57 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: On 11-12-28 08:40 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: Unless I'm greatly mistaken, you've accused a number of people of

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-29 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 29, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 11-12-29 12:02 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: On Dec 29, 2011, at 5:17 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 11-12-29 01:57 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: Having said all that, Stephen, please prove you exist. That's a tough one.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-28 Thread Vorl Bek
In ecatnews.com http://ecatnews.com/?p=1727, Paul Story commented: [The idea that we have two fraudulant entities outbidding each other in an open exchange of illusionary pricing – shouting at each other from opposite sides of the Atlantic Ocean – is too bizarre to be given space except in

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Paul Story wrote: [The idea that we have two fraudulant entities outbidding each other in an open exchange of illusionary pricing – shouting at each other from opposite sides of the Atlantic Ocean – is too bizarre to be given space except in recognising it as a small possibility.] Add to

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-28 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Add to that a scenario in which Defkalion has set up a large, expensive fake laboratory staffed by genuine experts being paid to pretend they are doing research. The whole notion is so implausible I can't imagine why

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: What *is* likely is that Defkalion believed that they were going to receive a working core module from Rossi in June 2011. It is also likely that they prepared equipment and labs based on what they thought this core would be like according to

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-28 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: The people who have been there can estimate that by looking. They know what laboratory equipment costs. Wouldn't it be nice if we could hear from these people directly and see photos of what they saw (within the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if we could hear from these people directly and see photos of what they saw (within the needed limits to protect trade secrets)? I am trying to arrange that. It might help if you and others would stop making outrageous, baseless, ignorant attacks against

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-28 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: I am trying to arrange that. It might help if you and others would stop making outrageous, baseless, ignorant attacks against them. Generally speaking, people are not inclined to share information when you accuse them

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo wrote: I don't recall accusing anyone of anything. I raise possibilities which should be very easy to knock down. You do accuse people. You make endlessly repeated ignorant, snide comments about subjects you know nothing about. You could easily learn about these things, but you

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Titanic step forward? Better is gigantic management strategy blunder! To use mild euphemisms- this plan is naive, childish, primitive savage capitalistic thinking and self-destructive strategy. To use dumping on an endless, insatiable market- you cannot

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-28 Thread Peter Gluck
Perhaps it would be necessary to define better |experienced business man Obviously you learn from bitter failures (as Petroldragon) but the experience of successful campaigns is irrreplaceable see e.g. Jobs' career -succces breeds succes. To frighten Defkalion? How exactly? They are really

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-28 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: Mary Yugo wrote: I don't recall accusing anyone of anything. I raise possibilities which should be very easy to knock down. You do accuse people. Cite it or don't say it. Who did I accuse and of what and where

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-28 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 11-12-28 08:40 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Yugo wrote: I don't recall accusing anyone of anything. I raise possibilities which should be very easy to knock down.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-28 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote: ** On 11-12-28 08:40 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: Unless I'm greatly mistaken, you've accused a number of people of failing to exist. The only allegation of non existence I've ever made is the non-existence of a proper and

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-27 Thread Peter Gluck
Titanic step forward? Better is gigantic management strategy blunder! To use mild euphemisms- this plan is naive, childish, primitive savage capitalistic thinking and self-destructive strategy. To use dumping on an endless, insatiable market- you cannot succeed even with a hundred million E-cats.