Re: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Harry Veeder
Rossi did not even answer the question. lol Harry On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: Francesco Fiorenzani December 10th, 2011 at 10:03 AM Dear Andrea Rossi In your opinion the collaboration with University of Bologna will start before the next March or

RE: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Robert Leguillon
Well, if the testing has already begun, if is being flatly denied by UNIBO: http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/12/01/university-of-bologna-clarifies-relationship-with-rossi/ Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:46:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a

Re: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-12-11 18:46, Harry Veeder wrote: Rossi did not even answer the question. lol I think we should now expect Rossi to not activate (i.e. pay) his contract with the University of Bologna in January, and see him come out at some point with a [mostly] undisclosed report of an undisclosed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: Let's hope that Defkalion GT or other scientists (supposedly close to reaching commercially viable results) won't back off from reputable, independent, thorough testing at the last minute or postpone it

Re: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-12-11 19:28, Mary Yugo wrote: [...] Is there any reason to believe anything Defkalion claims at this point? Basing on recently disclosed information, independent testing should occur within the first months of next year. Confidential information at my disposal also leads me to

Re: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Alain Sepeda
You are right that Rossi and Defkalion did proof nothing certain. but We have to understand that in the business logic(unscientific) they have no incentive to prove anything to us, the opposite. they just have incentive to prove to their clients, and convince others nothing works, until

Re: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Daniel Rocha
Agreed. 1 year exceeds my subjective deadline of October 28th. Time to move on... 2011/12/11 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com On 2011-12-11 18:46, Harry Veeder wrote: Rossi did not even answer the question. lol I think we should now expect Rossi to not activate (i.e. pay) his

RE: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mary, and many LENR-under-informed or patho-skeptics, point to things like this as evidence to support their beliefs: Nor is there any evidence that Defkalion, as they claimed, provided devices to the Greek authorities for safety and efficacy testing and certification. A member of the Greek

Re: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Mary, and many LENR-under-informed or patho-skeptics, point to things like this as evidence to support their beliefs Name calling now? Nice. What, exactly is a patho-skeptic? Someone who doubts a

RE: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mary: You should read the entire thread which ended with the following exchange between me and Terry: Mark Iverson: Didn't they change the location to Cypress? Or was that just rumor? I tend to gloss over the non-technical details. Terry Blanton: Defkalion Green Technologies is

Re: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: “So, has anyone checked to see if Defkalion has filed an application with the appropriate agency on Cypress??? Probably not... at least not yet!” Except that Defkalion specifically said their

Re: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Daniel Rocha
That they promised to heat the police academy was before they broke up with Rossi, right? 2011/12/11 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: “So, has anyone checked to see if Defkalion has filed an application

RE: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mary wrote: That none of this appears to be true is indeed evidence-- evidence that Defkalion was lying. NO, IT IS NOT EVIDENCE THAT THEY ARE LYING! There are a number of explanations which are just as plausible: - knowledge of the application's existence has not made it up to

RE: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
I don't know Daniel. but that's certainly a relevant point. I've only skimmed these kinds of topics since they rarely prove ANYTHING, positive or negative. I have only been engaging in the discussion lately in an attempt to raise the SNR of this forum. -mark From: Daniel Rocha

Re: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: That they promised to heat the police academy was before they broke up with Rossi, right? I think that's correct. But they also claimed they have their own technology and don't need Rossi. In fact their Hyperion

RE: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
No, not name calling. it is a valid term according to many definitive references, this one from Webster's Online Dictionary: The terms Pathological skepticism and Pseudoskepticism were coined, by Marcello Truzzi (sociology professor at Eastern Michigan University), in the early 1990s in response

RE: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mary wrote: Someone who doubts a convicted felon who makes extravagant claims and then won't provide definitive proof that is extremely easy, safe and cheap to come by? Oh brother. not that again. As usual, the material regarding Rossi's questionable history has been rehashed numerous times

Re: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Where did that phrase you apparently quoted out of context come from anyway?” What phase are you referring to? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence It's cute but often wrong. I guess we