Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

2012-01-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jay Caplan uniqueprodu...@comcast.net wrote: A quick cursory search shows the coal to liquid route to be less expensive than current oil and, of course, S Africa has been forced on this route for decades :...Estimates of the cost of producing liquid fuels from coal suggest that domestic U.S.

RE: [Vo]:Transportation energy

2012-01-09 Thread Robert Leguillon
. Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:49:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy From: jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Jay Caplan uniqueprodu...@comcast.net wrote: A quick cursory search shows the coal to liquid route to be less expensive than current oil and, of course, S

Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

2012-01-09 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Also -- as I pointed out -- the cold fusion motor would soon be cheaper, as the technology matures. It's really obvious: Rossi should sell the eCat on eBay! :-)

Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

2012-01-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: I could not fathom a scenario where the climate lobbies would not try to exorbitantly tax carbon-releasing fuels in order to expedite their phase out. I do not think that will be necessary. It will phase out of its own as quickly as

Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

2012-01-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: It will cost a great deal to dig up the old tanks at gas stations. Note that you cannot leave them in the ground these days. There is an EPA rule: http://www.epa.gov/oust/pubs/20annrpt.pdf This is a sensible, good rule. Most EPA rules are common sense written into regulations. That

Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

2012-01-09 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Jed: ... Think of all the real estate that will be opened up as gas stations are abandoned. They are ugly. Good riddance to them. It is a shame all those people will lose their jobs. It seems to me that even in the best case scenario it is not likely that our nation would be motivated

Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

2012-01-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to me that even in the best case scenario it is not likely that our nation would be motivated (economically and/or politically speaking) to start digging up all of these service station gas tanks - not for quite a while.

Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

2012-01-09 Thread Jay Caplan
and starvation, allowing a higher planet population. - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy Jay Caplan uniqueprodu...@comcast.net wrote: A quick cursory search shows

Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

2012-01-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Also -- as I pointed out -- the cold fusion motor would soon be cheaper, as the technology matures. Two reasons: 1. No pollution control, gas tank, muffler, or catalytic converter needed. 2. Thermoelectric chips will be used across a much wider range of applications . . .

Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

2012-01-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:19:07 -0500: Hi, [snip] A cold fusion hybrid would probably not need as many batteries as the Prius plug-in or Volt. Just enough to bring the turbine up to full output. If that could be done in 6 minutes, or ~8 miles at highway speed, then