Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report

2011-10-31 Thread Peter Heckert
They test the temperature at the output pipe, but this does not say much about the energy when the mass flow is not known. When Lewan looked over the fence to the heat dissipators then he should have feeled A LOT of hot air. He did not mention anything. It would be interesting to know. I

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report

2011-10-31 Thread Daniel Rocha
4 m^3/s is not too much. That is a column of 1.6m^2 ascending at 1.6m/s. The area that concealed the radiators was much bigger. 2011/10/31 Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de They test the temperature at the output pipe, but this does not say much about the energy when the mass flow is not

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report

2011-10-31 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 31.10.2011 15:38, schrieb Daniel Rocha: 4 m^3/s is not too much. That is a column of 1.6m^2 ascending at 1.6m/s. The area that concealed the radiators was much bigger. I feel a hot stream of air if my car stands in front of the garage, it is still hot and the motor fan is running. My car

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report

2011-10-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert wrote: When Lewan looked over the fence to the heat dissipators then he should have feeled A LOT of hot air. He did not mention anything. I asked him about that. He said he did not have a chance to reach over the barrier and check. I believe others have said it was hot. As I

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report

2011-10-31 Thread Daniel Rocha
That is open field and and there was wood surrounding the radiator. And even the wood close to were the viewing was done was not close to the radiator air exit. -- Forwarded message -- From: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de Date: 2011/10/31 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Video added

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report

2011-10-31 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 31.10.2011 15:47, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert wrote: When Lewan looked over the fence to the heat dissipators then he should have feeled A LOT of hot air. He did not mention anything. I asked him about that. He said he did not have a chance to reach over the barrier and check. I

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report

2011-10-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert wrote: They test the temperature at the output pipe, but this does not say much about the energy when the mass flow is not known. The mass flow is known. It is in the report. It was 675 L/h. Of course you have to trust that Fioravanti reported it correctly. It would be

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report

2011-10-31 Thread Peter Heckert
summerday. Now imagine this amount of energy concentrated on an area of 47 m^2. And this area was less. Probably 25 m^2. -- Forwarded message -- From: *Peter Heckert* peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de Date: 2011/10/31 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report

2011-10-31 Thread Daniel Rocha
of energy concentrated on an area of 47 m^2. And this area was less. Probably 25 m^2. -- Forwarded message -- From: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de Date: 2011/10/31 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Am 31.10.2011 15:38, schrieb

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report

2011-10-31 Thread Peter Heckert
]:Video added to NyTeknik report To: vortex-l@eskimo.com mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com Am 31.10.2011 15:38, schrieb Daniel Rocha: 4 m^3/s is not too much. That is a column of 1.6m^2 ascending at 1.6m/s. The area that concealed the radiators was much bigger. I feel a hot stream of air if my car stands

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report

2011-10-31 Thread Daniel Rocha
^2. -- Forwarded message -- From: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de Date: 2011/10/31 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Am 31.10.2011 15:38, schrieb Daniel Rocha: 4 m^3/s is not too much. That is a column of 1.6m^2 ascending

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report

2011-10-31 Thread Peter Heckert
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report To: vortex-l@eskimo.com mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com Am 31.10.2011 15:38, schrieb Daniel Rocha: 4 m^3/s is not too much. That is a column of 1.6m^2 ascending at 1.6m/s. The area that concealed the radiators was much bigger. I

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report

2011-10-31 Thread Daniel Rocha
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Am 31.10.2011 15:38, schrieb Daniel Rocha: 4 m^3/s is not too much. That is a column of 1.6m^2 ascending at 1.6m/s. The area that concealed the radiators was much bigger. I feel a hot stream of air if my car stands

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report : more tea-leaf reading

2011-10-31 Thread Alan J Fletcher
a) [00:00 - end] The genset was very loud ... could they really measure the eCat at 56 dB ? b) There were apparently two steam pipes coming out [00:42] , but there was a thermocouple [00:43] (and fluid water collector [00:44]) on only one . c) The pipe was cool, and the ball-valve handle

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report : more tea-leaf reading

2011-10-31 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: [00:43] (and fluid water collector [00:44]) on only one . And the valve was closed... —Jouni

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report

2011-10-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha wrote: In that case, there was a ceiling, so, even though the windows were opened, the hot air was trapped. The fans were placed outside the building. The barriers around the fans will prevent much of warm air from getting into the building. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report

2011-10-31 Thread Daniel Rocha
I was not referring to Rossi's building... 2011/10/31 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Daniel Rocha wrote: In that case, there was a ceiling, so, even though the windows were opened, the hot air was trapped. The fans were placed outside the building. The barriers around the fans will

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report

2011-10-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha wrote: I was not referring to Rossi's building... Oh. I guess you were talking about the aluminum casting factory described by Heckert. These e-mail conversations can be hard to follow. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report : more tea-leaf reading

2011-10-31 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 09:59 AM 10/31/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: a) [00:00 - end] The genset was very loud ... could they really measure the eCat at 56 dB ? b) There were apparently two steam pipes coming out [00:42] , but there was a thermocouple [00:43] (and fluid water collector [00:44]) on only one .

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report : more tea-leaf reading

2011-10-31 Thread Terry Blanton
Anyone recognize these men: http://i.imgur.com/hDu4Q.jpg http://i.imgur.com/wXTXn.jpg (MIBs) or this lady in uniform: http://i.imgur.com/fc4o6.jpg ? And how come all the women there were beautiful? T

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report : more tea-leaf reading

2011-10-31 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone recognize these men: http://i.imgur.com/hDu4Q.jpg http://i.imgur.com/wXTXn.jpg  (MIBs) The sitting men have to be from the US and they all look like the work for the government. None are smiling. We're talking

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report : more tea-leaf reading

2011-10-31 Thread Danny Ross Lunsford
These people look like Scandinavians to me. -drl -- I write a little. I erase a lot. - Chopin --- On Mon, 10/31/11, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report

Re: [Vo]:Video added to NyTeknik report : more tea-leaf reading

2011-10-31 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Danny Ross Lunsford antimatte...@yahoo.com wrote: These people look like Scandinavians to me. Maybe Aryans? ;-) T